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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 16, 2023 13:15:06 GMT
It doesn't matter what normal people think, it's all part of the culture war and conspiracy nonsense, they only have to appeal to a small but sizeable minority of alt right types.
In that regard, Tate, Musk etc are exactly who Brand wants on his team.
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Post by cubby on Sept 16, 2023 14:14:14 GMT
Suprised nothing has been said about Russell Brand before, years ago when he was presenteron MTV he was massive "rapey perv" according to a friend who was intern. The young woman (and most woman) kept away from him
I went to one of the recordings of a show he was filming in Leicester Square (I think it was called 1 Leicester Square, after the building it was filmed in) and my main memory was right at the end of filming suddenly 5-6 stunning women appeared on either side of him, and the impression I got was that he was very keen to invite them back to his dressing room, while other people carefully escorted him out of the recording studio. I had no idea where they came from as you could easily see who else was in the audience and I swear they weren't sat there watching him interview Richard E Grant or watch Embrace. It's perfectly possible that he beelined for them, thinking back on it. |
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Post by anthonyuk on Sept 16, 2023 14:16:11 GMT
Why on earth would it NOT be worth investigating and exposing? Maybe for once one of these cunts will actually get their comeuppance before they’re dead or nearly there unlike Saville, Harris, Weinstein etc etc. That has absolutely spun me. What an incredibly strange thing to take issue with. Absolutely don't have issue with it, hope it absolutely sinks him without a trace. It's been almost common knowledge how bad he is was my point, along with Fielding dating schoolgirls and Philip shagging the runners, but the media/papers sit on it for reasons known to themselves. Running with it I agree with, not doing it 10 years ago when he was at his peak is like they've only just discovered he's a rapey cunt is what makes it feel odd. We have few shows these days with the power of Dispatches. When the country is so fucked, telling us they've just found out to their supprise that Brand is a rapey cunt 15 years later is of course important work, but in the grand scheme falls a little flat. |
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Post by elstoof on Sept 16, 2023 14:44:29 GMT
Incredible
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Post by simple on Sept 16, 2023 14:46:12 GMT
If Adam Rowe and Katherine Ryan are right then the reason Brand hasn’t been torn to shreds in the press earlier is because of legal injunctions preventing them from doing so. Dispatches and the Sunday Times have obviously been able to get around that through, presumably, hard graft and evidence gathering, which has taken until now to perform.
I’m guessing the lateness of the announcement that they’re going with the story this weekend has been because Brand’s lawyers have been fighting back hard.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 16, 2023 14:50:40 GMT
but the media/papers sit on it for reasons known to themselves. One of the reasons is that millionaire celebrities tend to have good legal teams and, contrary to his carefully cultivated image, Brand is incredibly litigious. |
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Post by Lukus on Sept 16, 2023 15:09:23 GMT
So it seems, ironically, the conspiracy theory that could easily be true is that his sudden change from apolitical lefty (if that's not too much of a paradox) to right wing fluffing crackpot is absolutely because everyone in the entertainment industry knew about his rapey-wapey nature and exploits, so he became completely unemployable, then as suggested earlier, Brand knew this would inevitably come out one day, so jumped head first into the safety net provided by the extreme alt right nuts.
Fucking devious little narcissist.
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Post by cubby on Sept 16, 2023 15:13:22 GMT
That narrative would explain a lot.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 16, 2023 15:13:23 GMT
Certainly stacks up as a theory.
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Post by anthonyuk on Sept 16, 2023 15:13:47 GMT
When (If popbitch are to be believed) the head of be BBC hosts parties full of high level tories, filled with models and female influencers all under strict NDA and the ex PM has an unknown number of kids and is friends with ex KGB agents. Spending this time and effort to secretly film and go after Russel Brand, who's already disappeared down his own rabbit hole, will only confirm what most people thought and boost his standing to his followers. Obviously not hand waving away potential criminal activity. I remember at his peak, papers would publish stories about him booking dates with multiple girls to his home, who would all turn up oblivious and the ones down for an instant orgy were invited to stay. Grim, though weirdly almost got almost hyped for being a serial shagger at the time. He rode that wave multiple times and made a career from it. As mentioned already in the video he seems genuinely panicked, scared even to the point he doesn't even mention the allegations, so I guess there's alot worse to come. Still With the mind bending corruption going on in this country. Having the investigative power of the despatches team spend years on the sexual activies of Russel Brand, seems a little bizarre. "Not handwaving potential criminal activity" then seeks to handwave potential criminal activity. You're deliberately miss representing what I said. He's a cunt, always has been and the media/reporters have given him a free ride for years. I always assumed his slip from Hollywood into relative obscurity preaching to conspiracy theorists, was due to him being effectively blacklisted to the point he had nowhere else to go. He deserves to have his house of cards come crashing down on his head for all he's done. As a grand expose, I just feel it falls short when the entire media and entertainment industry knew what he was like for nearly 2 decades and did sod all. Its depressing it's took so long and for such a big how to bring him to account if anything. Dispatches has the power to reach the absolute untouchable, when the country is in the claws of the tories and the right wing, where's the grand expose on Boris or Nigel Farage? An exclusive on Brand being a dodgy rapist while absolutely important, feels like confirming what's already known decades late. |
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Post by 😎 on Sept 16, 2023 15:14:30 GMT
I feel like that’s giving him too much credit. The Occam’s razor angle would be that the right wing grift is extremely, extremely lucrative and pretty easy to do when you have a bit of celebrity clout.
Unless your name is Graham Linehan for some reason.
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Post by zephro on Sept 16, 2023 15:15:51 GMT
Has he gone that right wing? Was he ever that left wing? As far as I understand it his mad conspiracy theory shit is about the Mainstream Media, Big Pharma etc. Which are entirely the kind of thing you have to just drone out during Labour party meetings some days.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Sept 16, 2023 15:20:27 GMT
Hopefully it means victims can start coming forward and he'll face legal action
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Post by 😎 on Sept 16, 2023 15:25:21 GMT
He’s sides with Putin, he supported the trucker protest, he posts mostly on right wing video sites, he’s clearly sitting in a very particular camp.
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Post by Tuffty on Sept 16, 2023 15:25:30 GMT
As someone who listened to his radio show back in the day, his politics blew with whatever direction the wind was blowing. He'd be a vast advocate for greater protection of drug addicts and the like where you could kinda box him in as left leaning. But now he's pretty skewed to right wing conspiracy nutters because the audience laps it up. And they need someone like him that can be somewhat charismatic because they don't have anyone like tthat.so they both feed off each other.
Anyway thought this was funny
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 16, 2023 15:26:06 GMT
Has he gone that right wing? Was he ever that left wing? As far as I understand it his mad conspiracy theory shit is about the Mainstream Media, Big Pharma etc. Which are entirely the kind of thing you have to just drone out during Labour party meetings some days. He's always been beholden to those who he thinks are his intellectual betters, case in point Morrissey and David Icke. |
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Post by Danno on Sept 16, 2023 15:29:21 GMT
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Sept 16, 2023 15:32:02 GMT
What about him killing Andrew Sachs.
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Post by zephro on Sept 16, 2023 15:44:36 GMT
He’s sides with Putin, he supported the trucker protest, he posts mostly on right wing video sites, he’s clearly sitting in a very particular camp. Supporting Putin, largely a left wing tankey pursuit in my experience. Well the pursuit of cunts and morons, but ones who claim to be left wing. |
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Sept 16, 2023 15:46:13 GMT
C4 show tonight seems just to be about Brand. Take back what I said about Walliams.
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Post by simple on Sept 16, 2023 15:49:59 GMT
The Times/Sunday Times have full details of the investigation and accusations online now - more than other sites are reporting - its very grim stuff.
The schoolgirl targeting stuff is so premeditated and calculated.
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Post by zephro on Sept 16, 2023 15:51:39 GMT
The Times/Sunday Times have full details of the investigation and accusations online now - more than other sites are reporting - its very grim stuff. The schoolgirl targeting stuff is so premeditated and calculated. It was a joint Times/C4 investigation. |
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Post by Lukus on Sept 16, 2023 15:52:26 GMT
As someone who listened to his radio show back in the day, his politics blew with whatever direction the wind was blowing. He'd be a vast advocate for greater protection of drug addicts and the like where you could kinda box him in as left leaning. But now he's pretty skewed to right wing conspiracy nutters because the audience laps it up. And they need someone like him that can be somewhat charismatic because they don't have anyone like tthat.so they both feed off each other. Anyway thought this was funny I dunno, he was always broadly supportive of the oppressed and minorities, LGBT, etc. And a big advocate of compassion in general, albeit basically ripping off Buddhism and passing it all off as his own unique thinking. Famously he stated voting was pointless and tried to present himself as apolitical. Ultimately, he's always been pretty self serving though, so I get what you mean. It's clear he's massively jumped into the extreme right in terms of building a new audience, whether he believes it or not. |
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Post by askew on Sept 16, 2023 15:52:37 GMT
He looks like a bearded version of that TV doctor |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 16, 2023 15:52:37 GMT
I feel like that’s giving him too much credit. The Occam’s razor angle would be that the right wing grift is extremely, extremely lucrative and pretty easy to do when you have a bit of celebrity clout. Unless your name is Graham Linehan for some reason. I think, in his case, it’s at least partly due to the absolutely uncritical adoration that audience for that will give you if you just tell them things they want to hear. |
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Post by simple on Sept 16, 2023 15:55:39 GMT
The Times/Sunday Times have full details of the investigation and accusations online now - more than other sites are reporting - its very grim stuff. The schoolgirl targeting stuff is so premeditated and calculated. It was a joint Times/C4 investigation. Yeah one of the side pieces is an article about how the investigation was carried out. Almost sounds like everyone he’s ever worked with has been approached or come forward this time. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 16, 2023 15:55:56 GMT
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Post by simple on Sept 16, 2023 15:59:13 GMT
Its not often you wish a taxi driver had kidnapped a female passenger but reading the part about the driver trying to talk the 16 yr old out of going in when he recognised the address. You want to travel back in time and just say ‘hit the childlock button and drive mate’
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 16, 2023 16:06:06 GMT
Anyway of reading that Times article at all?
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