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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2022 12:52:35 GMT
Good to see that worshipping ideology takes priority over anything resembling reality.
A true nutter indeed.
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Post by Frog on Oct 6, 2022 8:19:24 GMT
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Post by geefe on Oct 6, 2022 8:35:46 GMT
Just saw on telly. Absolutely horrific.
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 6, 2022 9:11:34 GMT
Teacher 8 months pregnant aswell. Just horrendous
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 6, 2022 10:59:33 GMT
Horrible news, just so senseless.
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Post by simple on Oct 6, 2022 11:21:29 GMT
Fuck.
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Post by ChocNut on Oct 6, 2022 11:26:48 GMT
WTF
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 6, 2022 13:28:49 GMT
I saw the report this morning and it turned my fucking stomach and the absolute coward took his own life and his family after. This world just feels increasingly depressing of late.
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Post by cubby on Oct 6, 2022 13:46:11 GMT
Ehh, it does if you only focus on the bad shit. All those billions of other people who haven't killed anyone aren't getting the fair share of the reporting.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 13:55:03 GMT
"Things are basically fine, nothing noteworthy happened" isn't really newsworthy; it's just normal. Things get reported because they are unusual.
Which isn't to say that *everything* is fine. But I don't think the news reporting bad things is necessarily a good indicator of what to be worried about. If anything, it's the stuff the news doesn't report (like, say, individual instances of domestic violence) that is the bigger danger.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 13:55:49 GMT
Anyway, this is still terrible :/
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Post by Fake_Blood on Oct 6, 2022 15:32:51 GMT
I think because of the internet we do get a daily dose of stomach turning news we didn’t get in say the 90s. And I’m not sure it’s healthy to have your stomach turned that often, not if there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it but feel sorry for the people involved.
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Post by simple on Oct 6, 2022 18:49:35 GMT
A school not far from here got locked down because someone misheard the news on the tv and rang in a panic that a shooter was on the loose in the area.
The place starts with a T and has roughly the same number of syllables in its name.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 6, 2022 19:21:34 GMT
Trumpton
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Post by cubby on Oct 6, 2022 19:25:13 GMT
How's this for a hot take? I actually think that these sorts of stories shouldn't be headline news for anywhere but the country that they happen.
We don't get other news of the murder kind from other countries when it's just one person. Why all of a sudden is it important that we know about it when there's 20+ killed?
The only detail that's the deciding factor here is the number dead. In the future will we get coverage of killings in Thailand if it's only 5 dead? I doubt it. 10? Maybe on page 8 of the Times...
The ever present news cycle demands bigger and bloodier and more depraved. And it's now much more willing to look wider for it's insatiable thirst.
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Post by X201 on Oct 6, 2022 19:34:05 GMT
Dead Belgians don’t count
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Post by Nanocrystal on Oct 6, 2022 19:36:40 GMT
I think because of the internet we do get a daily dose of stomach turning news we didn’t get in say the 90s. And I’m not sure it’s healthy to have your stomach turned that often, not if there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it but feel sorry for the people involved. The worst thing is, this kind of shit seems to happen so often it barely registers with me on an emotional level any more. I'm completely desensitised to it now. Which is mental.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 21:30:52 GMT
How's this for a hot take? I actually think that these sorts of stories shouldn't be headline news for anywhere but the country that they happen. We don't get other news of the murder kind from other countries when it's just one person. Why all of a sudden is it important that we know about it when there's 20+ killed? The only detail that's the deciding factor here is the number dead. In the future will we get coverage of killings in Thailand if it's only 5 dead? I doubt it. 10? Maybe on page 8 of the Times... The ever present news cycle demands bigger and bloodier and more depraved. And it's now much more willing to look wider for it's insatiable thirst. I wouldn't go that far. People are already ignorant enough about what's going on in the world. Which is fine if they're protecting their mental health or whatever, but that doesn't mean the media should ignore it.
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Post by cubby on Oct 6, 2022 21:43:06 GMT
But it completely skews things, what other news about other countries do we get? We have no idea who's in their government, their cultural news largely goes unreported for the most part. Why is it only acts of mass atrocities crosses boundaries like no other aspect?
This kind of thing is a self perpetuating machine. It's actively encouraging other people to commit bigger and more barbaric acts, and now on a global scale.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 6, 2022 21:48:10 GMT
I’d question what you’re using as your news sources. I see plenty of news about the politics and cultural comings and goings of other countries, it’s just not front and center on most Western news sites, which is pretty understandable tbh.
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Post by cubby on Oct 6, 2022 21:51:31 GMT
The Sun innit.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 21:51:50 GMT
I mean, other things do get reported. Maybe you'd need to look at a variety of news sources like Al Jazeera, but they do get reported.
Whether people pay any attention to it is another story. Even a major event like a natural disaster or military coup has a life cycle of maybe two weeks in the major international media. Then it gets replaced by the next thing.
And this is a problem. But it's not really a problem solved by the media just ignoring things that happen.
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Post by JuniorFE on Oct 6, 2022 21:58:28 GMT
Actually, I find myself slightly agreeing with this. Chances are, if you're not in the country it's happening in, you're not going to hear much about a beautiful concert or parade (if it's not already a big enough event or with a well-known performer there, at least), an archaeological discovery, an up-and-coming painter or some of the less well-known natural spectacles of countries, but anything negative happens and chances are it'll make international news easily...
Do note that I'm not saying the balance should be shifted by lessening the reporting of said negative news, being well-informed is obviously very important and it's unfortunately not as common as it should be. I just think there should be a slightly bigger highlight on some positive news even if they're outside the political or economic spectrum (again, without burying tragedies like the above).
Edit: And for the record, I do actively look for said positive news when I can and never stick to just one channel/website for my news sources. It just seems that the front pages are always the shitty stuff and anything nice is usually more footnote material, even if it's something important like a minor medical breakthrough or the like. Again, just personal experience.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 22:09:40 GMT
Well I'm sure international news outlets would love to do more slice of life stuff. But I don't know of a single one that hasn't had its budgets slashed into ribbons over the last couple of decades - and it's not as if international stories usually draw that many eyeballs in the first instance.
So you'll probably have to find it by broadening the sources you use for news.
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Post by JuniorFE on Oct 6, 2022 22:11:00 GMT
Very fair point about the budget, and it unfortunately applies to more than just news outlets in many countries...
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 22:15:26 GMT
It's why everyone uses Reuters or AP instead of their own correspondents. And there's only so much that Reuters and AP can do.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 6, 2022 22:21:39 GMT
you'll probably have to find it by broadening the sources you use for news. This is really all it boils down to. I constantly hear stuff about new international authors, as an example, because I seek out that information and curate my own sources. If you’re expecting to passively consume and have worldwide culture appear in the daily feeds of the broadsheets, it’s not going to happen.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 6, 2022 23:14:22 GMT
The truth is that people can find information about this stuff if they want to. But often they just... don't want to.
I remember being back from Myanmar early in 2021. Various people asked me how the work life was over there, and when I said "Great! But I don't think I'll be able to go back anytime soon", a common response was "Oh really? Why not?" With shocked looks when I mentioned that the military had took over, Aung San Suu Kyi was in jail, thousands of people protesting and getting beaten up and killed, etc etc. And this was at the time that it was happening, or not long after. It just wasn't something that was on people's radar, or at least not for very long.
And I'm not saying that it necessarily should be on people's radar. I get it, people have a million other things to pay attention to that are probably more relevant to their daily lives. But it probably contributes to this vicious cycle with ad-based revenue streams, where people paying less attention to even pretty-significant international news, leads to less international news getting covered.
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Post by simple on Oct 6, 2022 23:31:52 GMT
One of the many shames around the attacks on the BBC from domestic political opponents is that the World Service is being impacted and that genuinely is a huge resource for news from outside the usual big headlines, like social and cultural stuff. There aren’t many outlets in the West can compete with the depth of the coverage they’ve provided over the decades.
To a lesser extent the privatisation of Channel 4 will also see another provider of that sort of coverage hit hard considering the whole move is basically revenge against C4 News.
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Post by X201 on Oct 27, 2022 19:16:45 GMT
Mass stabbing in Italy apparently
One dead and several injured, including on loan Arsenal footballer Pablo Marí, in a mass stabbing in Italy, media report
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