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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 7:51:47 GMT
In a couple of years covid will be nothing more to worry about than flu.
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 16, 2021 7:53:27 GMT
In a couple of years covid will be nothing more to worry about than flu. That's the plan, certainly hope so. |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 16, 2021 8:13:47 GMT
Only difference is that it won't just be seasonal and we will need a couple of jabs a year to stay on top of it.
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Post by minimatt on Nov 16, 2021 8:14:39 GMT
Thing is, if this is it, if this is the endemic state we're all supposed to accept, I just can't accept that. I have too many immuno compromised & wrinkly people in my orbit for whom catching this, vaccines or no, represents a roll of the dice. Even if we're ok as a society with "they're over 80, they'd die of something else sooner or later anyway" I can't believe we're ok with saying to transplant patients, leukemia patients, folks with MS that they just have to suck it and roll a d20 because wearing a mask is a personal choice and they need to come into the office because working from home is skiving/harming Pret's share price.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 16, 2021 8:35:03 GMT
I agree on the mask wearing and office working. It’s worth noting there are still huge numbers of people who aren’t in the office much or at all, although there are plans by lots to increase the numbers going in.
I suspect that’ll wait until the spring whenever the other winter illnesses pass.
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Post by technoish on Nov 16, 2021 9:05:26 GMT
Our office moved back to full capacity yesterday. Supposedly it was mostly empty though! There is no requirement to actually go in.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 16, 2021 9:17:43 GMT
Interesting. You 1HGR?
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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 16, 2021 9:23:35 GMT
Thing is, if this is it, if this is the endemic state we're all supposed to accept, I just can't accept that. I have too many immuno compromised & wrinkly people in my orbit for whom catching this, vaccines or no, represents a roll of the dice. Even if we're ok as a society we're ok with "they're over 80, they'd die of something else sooner or later anyway" I can't believe we're ok with saying to transplant patients, leukemia patients, folks with MS that they just have to suck it and roll a d20 because wearing a mask is a personal choice and they need to come into the office because working from home is skiving/harming Pret's share price. I agree with you, it's Bullshit. I've been furious about this ever since that June meeting last year when the EU collectively decided that my families lives don't matter. Not that being angry is overly helpful but it does lead to some self realisations. I mean we all came tantalizingly close to total societal breakdown. For a month or so at the start here there was no useful supply chain until they remembered the internet. In a town with no supermarket things looked really grim. And then to endure those lockdowns, see cases get to almost zero, twice, only to open up again and then watch as the numbers skyrocket is another swift kick to the bollocks. All I can say is I'm thankful that my elderly parents with health issues live in Australia because I might not have them had they lived here and that is one scary fucking thought. So what do we do now? Accept it? Well yeah, not like you have a choice. And then what? We all sit here twiddling our thumbs, trying to navigate our way without catching it waiting for things to normalize and hope like hell we out live the next probably worse pandemic that comes along. Because if the next one is worse and being brought to you buy the same greedy jack asses in charge as this one then being able to sufficiently wipe your arse will be the least of your problems. So yeah, I'm pissed at those in charge and I suppose myself too. Kids are a resilient lot but there is way they should of had to spend the last 2 years in the way they have. I'll never forgive the EU for that, ever. |
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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 16, 2021 9:23:45 GMT
Bunch of cunts.
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Post by TheSaint on Nov 16, 2021 9:45:19 GMT
Why are you blaming the EU? Surely each government made their own decisions.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 16, 2021 10:03:49 GMT
Because in June 2020, after the first couple of lockdowns that actually worked, all EU leaders had a meeting to decide that instead of elimination they would keep the block open and we would need to live with it. Even they quoted they would not let it ruin their summer holidays, that went well. Countries had to submit their EU approved reopening plans in order to get access to the massive aid funding on offer.
Money over lives.
Don't get me wrong the Spanish response was fucking ridiculous too. But the block as a hole, and the UK are seemingly OK with the numbers we have seen as collateral. Just the same as they are letting the world burn.
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Post by technoish on Nov 16, 2021 10:12:08 GMT
I haven't been in an office basically since March 2020. |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 16, 2021 10:14:43 GMT
Nor me, but nominally I mean. We're the other side of 1HGR and nowhere near full capacity!
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 16, 2021 10:39:45 GMT
In a couple of years covid will be nothing more to worry about than flu. That's going to need the antiviral pills etc to be a standard prescription if you get it. Take it from me, even double vaxxed it can still do a proper number on you. It's been nearly a month now and my lungs are still shot to shit, I barely have a sense of smell and I'm struggling with fatigue every day. Same for my better half, but thankfully less so for her. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 10:52:59 GMT
The common cold would have had decent chance of killing you when it first started, same with countless other stuff. Eventually it'll weaken/we'll be one immune to and we'll get used to it like we do everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 11:02:52 GMT
Hopefully they find a better way other than injections to help with immunity. I hate injections so much I think I'd rather have a suppository.
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Post by minimatt on Nov 16, 2021 12:07:30 GMT
The common cold would have had decent chance of killing you when it first started, same with countless other stuff. Eventually it'll weaken/we'll be one immune to and we'll get used to it like we do everything else. I'm sure that's the case; my concern is what we do in the meantime. Shrug our shoulders and accept thousands will die because we must get back to normal now is not a position I'm happy with, yet seems to be the position of my government. |
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Post by dam on Nov 16, 2021 15:33:22 GMT
Rare meeting in the office today (we are doing ISO9001 stuff). Out of the 8 of us, only 1-2 are in, doing the shipping, but it was going to be everyone in.
Reminded everyone to do a LFT before coming in - 1 positive! If I hadn't requested this, she'd have been blowing it around the room.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 17:50:08 GMT
In the office it still quiet, unfortunately the tesco value looking agent 47 twat is in most days and never wears a mask. no doubt one of those people that say they are "exempt". The limited interactions I've had with him by email and teams, he is a twat. Thankfully the office is massive and barely holds the 600/700 people it use, so sometimes go and work in the lounge area. At home I don't have office area, so working at home has been getting to me.
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Post by dam on Nov 17, 2021 7:44:03 GMT
Covid hitting hard here today - due to our shipping team (of 2) isolating or waiting for PCR results, I'm going to have to go in and do some actual work! Will probably not getting round turning on my PC and seeing if it still works...it was getting a bit creaky before WFH....
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Post by ForkHandles on Nov 17, 2021 10:36:21 GMT
Ten days in with my covid and I'm beginning to forget what normal felt like. Sometimes I think I'm OK (other than no sense of smell), but then moments later I'm exhausted, coughing and aching all over. This sucks. Can't compare it to anything I've had before, felt like flu for the first few days days but this is just 'other' - gah.
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 17, 2021 11:21:34 GMT
Ten days in with my covid and I'm beginning to forget what normal felt like. Sometimes I think I'm OK (other than no sense of smell), but then moments later I'm exhausted, coughing and aching all over. This sucks. Can't compare it to anything I've had before, felt like flu for the first few days days but this is just 'other' - gah. Frustrating isn't it. Went that way both times I've had it. Numerous false dawns before feeling like absolute shit again. I'm back to sleeping 8hrs+ a night and even then I feel like I could sleep in the day. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 7:39:55 GMT
My lungs are still not right 11 months after suspected COVID (I'm now on an inhaler daily) and I still end up tired. I am classed as at risk, but the thing really did great me up. I remember the whole struggling for breath thing way too clearly as that was scary.
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Post by RobEG on Nov 18, 2021 10:30:21 GMT
Loads of cases in my son's year at school. I've been so lucky to avoid to it so far but it seems inevitable we'll all get it at some point. Hoping our Pfizer vaccine from July will still hold firm!
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Post by malek86 on Nov 18, 2021 12:49:12 GMT
Things are going well enough here in Italy so far. Making vaccines near-mandatory probably helped. I do wish they would just make them mandatory already, but unfortunately populism is a thing here too.
Cases are going up, though, and I'm afraid if what will happen by the holidays. They have already started giving boosters to the elderly, but things are always slow at first.
I was kinda hoping these vaccines would be enough at least for one year. Six months is just not enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 18:50:32 GMT
Things are going well enough here in Italy so far. Making vaccines near-mandatory probably helped. I do wish they would just make them mandatory already, but unfortunately populism is a thing here too. Cases are going up, though, and I'm afraid if what will happen by the holidays. They have already started giving boosters to the elderly, but things are always slow at first. I was kinda hoping these vaccines would be enough at least for one year. Six months is just not enough. Thats why boosters are important (of course its set of the paranoid deranged anti-vax filth, saying shit about "see we were right, 1984 right there!!!!1111) |
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 18, 2021 20:09:11 GMT
Weird question, what do we do now when hit with another respiratory infection? I've come down with something, been doing lateral flow tests and so far, not Covid. So cold or flu (depending on how symptoms progress) then.
The lesson should probably be, do not go to work, you infect others and you debilitate other people by spreading that shit around.
But there is still a massive stigma about not going to work with these infections, 'it's just a cold, you can still work' etc.
I'm at an advantage, if I take the odd day here and there then I won't have it taken from my monthly salary and if I have to, I can work from home too. What of the factory worker? The retail/hospitality worker? Would winter pressure on the NHS be as intense if we followed some sort of infection control for all infection not just Covid?
When the pandemic struck, there was a general hope that we would reorder and reimagine the relationship with work in our society but I think the old normal is back.
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Post by technoish on Nov 18, 2021 20:35:32 GMT
Yeah we are not allowed in the building right now with any kind off ill health!!!!
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Post by Frog on Nov 18, 2021 21:09:08 GMT
Where as some of us get a written warning for a number of absences in a year which now includes covid.
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Post by askew on Nov 18, 2021 21:20:46 GMT
Where as some of us get a written warning for a number of absences in a year which now includes covid. Ugh. Sorry to hear that Froggy. Seems ridiculous after what we've just been through. |
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