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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 12:44:59 GMT
I don't think it's much of stretch to think that she has used her contacts in Rwanda to help broker the deal and convince the tories the idea may have merit.
If you really can't see any conflict of interest and who it might help then just keep those blinkers on.
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Post by elstoof on Dec 8, 2023 12:50:33 GMT
The idea already existed and was deployed by the Israeli government. Which Home Secretary was fired for having clandestine meetings in Isreal again
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 12:55:08 GMT
It would also explain why Braverman has been in the thick of it since Priti got sacked. She clearly had something to do with it and why Suella ended up in the cabinet when Sunak took over when everyone thought he was mad to keep her.
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Post by Zyrr on Dec 8, 2023 12:56:06 GMT
Tory cheerleader Nick Ferrari was on Sophy Ridge's programme on Sky News last night. He'd asked the question if the Rwanda scheme would sway votes on his radio show, to which the overwhelming response was no. He was urging the government to stop putting so much emphasis on getting this policy through and start focussing on getting mortgages and utility bills down before they get absolutely destroyed at the polls.
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Post by elstoof on Dec 8, 2023 13:00:45 GMT
Rwanda are actively pursuing partners to accept refugees from in exchange for cash, they have a similar deal with Denmark. I don’t think having a contact in their law department is a requirement to brokering a deal, I reckon if I send an email today promising a few million quid I could ship half the forum over before Christmas
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Post by apollo on Dec 8, 2023 13:09:01 GMT
Also the tories paid huge bribes to the french gov as well and the french just pocketed the money and did nothing then asked for more (the french didn't want them as well)
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 13:11:50 GMT
elstoof There was a question about who is making money out of this and why. I gave my take on it and you think it's bollocks, fair enough. Why do you think Braverman is so pissed off she has been pushed out? Care to enlighten us with your own thoughts? Or maybe there is no corruption? £240 million gone, no one has been flown over there, not the tories fault. Nothing to see here.
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Post by elstoof on Dec 8, 2023 14:05:20 GMT
The question was
There plenty of corruption, this whole sorry lot are at it. There’s no surprises there
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 8, 2023 14:24:36 GMT
I just cant get my head around how they are so ride or die about this. Its now the magic bullet beacon of hope, the central pillar to their migration solution and even if it was signed off tomorrow, it would make fuck all difference. The figures would still be terrible and they would still be taking shit at the dispatch box.
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Post by elstoof on Dec 8, 2023 14:28:31 GMT
All to send 200 people, that’s not even 1 plane full. How is it supposed to deter the 60,000 channel crossers
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 8, 2023 14:36:29 GMT
I mean, you'd fancy your chances at 0.3%, right? Jesus christ.
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 14:47:05 GMT
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Post by elstoof on Dec 8, 2023 15:10:51 GMT
Well, quite. She was in charge of the home office when a payment her predecessor had scheduled was due to be paid, just like Cleverly will do if he’s there for the next one. Look, buying into the scheme being one big conspiracy that Braverman orchestrated over 15 years for a few million quid in backhanders merely distracts from the simple truth that she’s just another evil cunt in a long line of hardline headbangers who’ll fuck absolutely anyone over if if satisfies their need for more power
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 15:16:10 GMT
Ah the Suella apologist, love to see it.
I don't think she had a 15 year plan to send refugees to Rwanda but when immigration was going through the roof, you can clearly see that she has spoon fed the idea to the leadership at the time, which they probably lapped up due to having no clear idea of what else to do.
But you know, carry on thinking she has nothing to do with it.
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Post by JonFE on Dec 8, 2023 15:28:55 GMT
The way I see it, you both basically agree she's evil and disagree over how much she's earning from it, which is besides the point!
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Post by elstoof on Dec 8, 2023 15:33:16 GMT
You’ve lost me there, a Suella apologist?
The plan was Patel’s baby from the start, by some weird coincidence she was having secret meetings in Israel right around the time that Isreal was secretly sending refugees to Rwanda.
You’ve lurched from “Suella set it all up” to “she has links in government from her charity” to “she’s clearly had something to do with it” to “look, she’s signed up a payment” without too much joined up thinking on it. Of course she’s got something to do with it, she’s been in government for the last few years and she’s gained a lot of political clout just through a willingness to be seen as a nasty piece of shit in front of everyone. Of course she would run with this plan given half a chance
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Post by Rich on Dec 8, 2023 15:59:36 GMT
If you love her so much why don't you marry her elstoof.
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Post by Lizard on Dec 8, 2023 16:06:23 GMT
We can call them Suellstoof.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 8, 2023 16:07:48 GMT
He'd have to be a braver man than me.
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 8, 2023 16:14:02 GMT
Elstoof and Suella should get a room...
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Post by kal on Dec 8, 2023 16:15:18 GMT
Always had a bit of a guilty crush on PP if I’m being very honest.
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 16:17:14 GMT
The way I see it, you both basically agree she's evil and disagree over how much she's earning from it, which is besides the point! Yeah, this is true and I apologise for the suellapologist. Has a nice ring to it though.  |
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Post by geefe on Dec 8, 2023 16:17:58 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 8, 2023 16:24:06 GMT
Its kind of crazy that this catastrophe could rehabilitate her reputation purely off the back of Suella being the same but somehow even more nauseating.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 8, 2023 16:26:20 GMT
Patel isn't unattractive it's just a shame that she's a horrible person.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 8, 2023 16:28:23 GMT
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 16:28:51 GMT
I can't remember why PP got kicked out, it's hard to keep on top of all backstabbing/shithousery from the last few years.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Dec 8, 2023 16:35:54 GMT
Bullying, wasn't it?
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Post by Reviewer on Dec 8, 2023 16:42:14 GMT
Pritti seems the sort that would be into leather, domination and other kinky shit, just like half of the other tories.
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Post by gibroon on Dec 8, 2023 16:46:21 GMT
The bullying, haha.
She can't differentiate between work time and pastime.
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