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Post by Whizzo on Nov 23, 2023 13:55:55 GMT
Lovely bit of Blue on Blue fighting.
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Post by gibroon on Nov 23, 2023 13:56:22 GMT
There's nothing they can do to change things. People are poorer in almost every wage bracket compared to 5 years ago. The state is even worse off. How many swimming pools/libraries/post offices/community centers have been closed since the Tories got into power? This is a government for the (rich) people remember, growing the economy and cutting taxes. Hahaha
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Post by X201 on Nov 23, 2023 15:38:04 GMT
Ben Houchen, Baron Houchen of High Leven
For Christ's sake Ben, get your own name right.
Boris went to the trouble of dropping you in the Lords
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 23, 2023 16:09:32 GMT
Chinny reckon 🤔 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-67511542The home secretary has admitted he used "unparliamentary" language to describe a Labour MP, a close source has said. James Cleverly had denied claims he called the Stockton North constituency a swearword in response to a question in the Commons from Alex Cunningham. The source said on Thursday: "James made a comment. He called Alex Cunningham a shit MP. He apologises for unparliamentary language." Mr Cunningham said it "simply was not true", adding he "did not believe him". |
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Post by dfunked on Nov 23, 2023 16:20:55 GMT
I think you'll find, Mr. Speaker, that I actually said fupping grasshole
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Post by zephro on Nov 23, 2023 16:54:20 GMT
The next election is going to be 2 questions. Do you feel better off than 2010 or 2019? Same dates but do you feel anything is working as well as then?
Fairly sure the Tories have nothing to make those answers anything other than No and No.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 23, 2023 17:06:54 GMT
Chinny reckon 🤔 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-67511542The home secretary has admitted he used "unparliamentary" language to describe a Labour MP, a close source has said. James Cleverly had denied claims he called the Stockton North constituency a swearword in response to a question in the Commons from Alex Cunningham. The source said on Thursday: "James made a comment. He called Alex Cunningham a shit MP. He apologises for unparliamentary language." Mr Cunningham said it "simply was not true", adding he "did not believe him". Calling a fellow MP a shit is pretty bad, but at least he didn't call him a liar. That really would have been unacceptable. |
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 23, 2023 17:29:29 GMT
How bad is he for Cleverly to say he’s shit? Does that mean he’s even worse than the rest of the Tory MPs who are definitely very shit?
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 23, 2023 17:48:18 GMT
"I did not say Cunningham was shit, I said he was a twat who plays Tau. Obviously that's pretty much the same thing."
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Post by simple on Nov 23, 2023 18:26:35 GMT
I heard Cunningham paid a boy in yr 8 to paint his models for him
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Post by elstoof on Nov 23, 2023 18:36:49 GMT
Paint them like one of his French girls?
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Post by geefe on Nov 23, 2023 18:41:50 GMT
/shudder
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 23, 2023 20:31:22 GMT
Chinny reckon 🤔 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-67511542The home secretary has admitted he used "unparliamentary" language to describe a Labour MP, a close source has said. James Cleverly had denied claims he called the Stockton North constituency a swearword in response to a question in the Commons from Alex Cunningham. The source said on Thursday: "James made a comment. He called Alex Cunningham a shit MP. He apologises for unparliamentary language." Mr Cunningham said it "simply was not true", adding he "did not believe him". Calling a fellow MP a shit is pretty bad, but at least he didn't call him a liar. That really would have been unacceptable. It's probably the worst thing you could do. Ever. |
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Post by Goban on Nov 23, 2023 22:17:35 GMT
Braverman having a go at the government about today's immigration stats...FFS!
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Post by geefe on Nov 23, 2023 22:25:48 GMT
I blame the Home Secretary
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Post by simple on Nov 23, 2023 22:27:39 GMT
I know he did a lot of things that were not good as PM but seeing Cameron in Israel on his first foreign trip he really looks like an actual grown-up compared to the cabinet back home.
Also, it is very sad that Labour/the country can’t say that maybe net migration being 750k was good and those people deserve to have the chance to live and build lives where they would like*
* although, I’m pretty sure it includes anyone whose student visa is for over a year so thats tens if not hundreds of thousands who aren’t sticking around forever.
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Post by cubby on Nov 23, 2023 22:32:21 GMT
I'm suspecting Cameron is thinking about positioning himself as leader again when it all goes belly up.
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Post by geefe on Nov 23, 2023 22:33:23 GMT
Tbf he didn't lose an election, leadership contest or get ousted. Every chance and he is somehow the least bad option.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 23, 2023 22:43:35 GMT
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Post by elstoof on Nov 23, 2023 22:44:38 GMT
How do you lead a party when you aren’t allowed in the Commons
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 23, 2023 22:47:12 GMT
* although, I’m pretty sure it includes anyone whose student visa is for over a year so thats tens if not hundreds of thousands who aren’t sticking around forever. That would be hundreds of thousands. 486,107 to be exact, about 150,000 more than those coming for work. www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-september-2023/summary-of-latest-statisticsObviously, some of those will remain after they finish their studies, having made connections here, whilst others will return to their home country or go elsewhere. No idea the proportions that make up those groups. |
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Post by simple on Nov 23, 2023 22:50:24 GMT
Given how high the earnings threshold can be for the visas that follow a post-study work visa I’d say most probably leave
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 23, 2023 22:51:50 GMT
How do you lead a party when you aren’t allowed in the Commons With the WFH infrastructure they don't want the poors to be using, obvs |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 23, 2023 23:37:53 GMT
Tbf he didn't lose an election, leadership contest or get ousted. Every chance and he is somehow the least bad option. No he lost something that has done incredible harm to this country and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future and all because the cunt was scared of losing some fucking seats to UKIP.
He is a grade A tosser who is also a crook.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 24, 2023 0:01:17 GMT
Given how high the earnings threshold can be for the visas that follow a post-study work visa I’d say most probably leave This is it. Instead of encouraging those students to stay, go into good careers, pay taxes, giving back to their community etc, we push them away. It baffles me. |
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Post by Chopsen on Nov 24, 2023 0:15:45 GMT
It's like putting loads of effort of throwing a party and banning all the sexy fun people
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Post by simple on Nov 24, 2023 0:26:35 GMT
Its kind of amazing they’d want in at all when all the cocktails are made with Farage Gin
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Nov 24, 2023 5:20:40 GMT
Given how high the earnings threshold can be for the visas that follow a post-study work visa I’d say most probably leave This is it. Instead of encouraging those students to stay, go into good careers, pay taxes, giving back to their community etc, we push them away. It baffles me. But it is net immigration. So it also includes people leaving who were students and have left after finishing their studies. |
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Post by X201 on Nov 24, 2023 5:49:08 GMT
Given how high the earnings threshold can be for the visas that follow a post-study work visa I’d say most probably leave This is it. Instead of encouraging those students to stay, go into good careers, pay taxes, giving back to their community etc, we push them away. It baffles me. Dougs. Are you trying to apply logic to Government policy again? |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 24, 2023 7:27:55 GMT
Also, it is very sad that Labour/the country can’t say that maybe net migration being 750k was good and those people deserve to have the chance to live and build lives where they would like If you look at the details then those claiming asylum are only about 75k, which is 10% of the total. Most of the people coming are coming on student visas, work visas (highly skilled or nurse, etc..) and their dependents, etc.. The nurse visa has had like a 58% increase. All the screams about 750k make it sound like it's entirely made up of people coming over in small boats. TBF, a lot of today's papers do mention the care workers. But I thought the government was *trying* to get more workers?! www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-papers-67516234 |
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