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Post by cubby on Nov 22, 2023 15:49:54 GMT
A couple of them would sometimes ping me with shit like "I need to drop out at 1pm to go to a doctor appointment" or some other noise. I would have to remind them that them telling me was wasting both their time and mine. Aw, they're probably hoping you show a passing interest in their wellbeing and you're like "fuck off Barry".. |
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Post by simple on Nov 22, 2023 19:12:43 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Nov 22, 2023 19:20:37 GMT
Interesting that despite how politically engaged we are, there's been zero mention 9f the autumn statement. Tax cuts and all. It will make such limited difference to most people.
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Post by technoish on Nov 22, 2023 19:32:14 GMT
I think it's £565 a year if you earn over 40k ish.
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Post by Rich on Nov 22, 2023 19:42:34 GMT
I guess £565 as a lump sum would be nothing to complain about. But spread over a year, with the price increases of everything, it's fairly insignificant.
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Post by Chopsen on Nov 22, 2023 19:45:48 GMT
Interesting that despite how politically engaged we are, there's been zero mention 9f the autumn statement. Tax cuts and all. It will make such limited difference to most people. Some of us have *jobs* Moderator Dougs 
Haven't had a chance to look at the detail of it yet, but I think it's a sensible move. I don't really care about the "woo more spending money" aspect of it, but the combination of fiscal drag from income tax bands staying the same and NI being cut means it's a move towards reducing how much tax on income is Income Tax (with a capital I) and how much is NI.
This matter because NI is a fucking stupid tax. It's a tax on jobs, and it's a tax on productive income. We tax passive income lighter than tax on labour. If I was in charge, I'd abolish NI completely and make up the difference by increasing income tax rates.
This needs to be a sustained strategy over years though.
Truth is that we're not really taxed enough in this country for the level of services we demand and expect. Tax cuts should be targeted towards simplification and rationalisation. This might be a side-effect rather than the indented plan, but I'll take it.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 22, 2023 19:54:06 GMT
 Agree fully with the last para. I have more of an issue as how the tax take is used. And the polls suggest most people are worried about public services. So whilst they might see an extra £50 a month, if they're waiting months for their hospital appointment, they're not going to care much. |
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Post by elstoof on Nov 22, 2023 20:23:44 GMT
Lowering tax just to be able to say you lowered the tax on the impending election campaign
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Post by kal on Nov 22, 2023 20:25:58 GMT
This is it. It’s just a Hail Mary as the cross ponders say.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 22, 2023 21:01:18 GMT
I think it's £565 a year if you earn over 40k ish. Actually about £411 at £40k. I'm around about that and will be seeing about £30 more every month. So, not really much help considering the increasing costs at the moment, but I'm sure the Daily Mail will be hearlding it as a budget for the working people come the morning. |
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Post by askew on Nov 22, 2023 21:15:39 GMT
I think it's £565 a year if you earn over 40k ish. Actually about £411 at £40k. I'm around about that and will be seeing about £30 more every month. So, not really much help considering the increasing costs at the moment, but I'm sure the Daily Mail will be hearlding it as a budget for the working people come the morning. Can’t sniff at a few more avocados a month |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 22, 2023 21:33:23 GMT
Lowering tax just to be able to say you lowered the tax on the impending election campaign Despite it only being worth a quarter of the tax rises in the last 4 years. It's no wonder we're all struggling. |
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Post by X201 on Nov 22, 2023 21:45:44 GMT
Can’t sniff at more sniff a month Michael Gove version |
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 22, 2023 22:09:06 GMT
An extra £30 a month? That makes Gamepass and PS+ premium basically free, what's to complain about?
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Post by minimatt on Nov 22, 2023 22:23:59 GMT
I mean, if fiscal drag sees you paying an extra 40 quid a month, and the leccy bill has gone up 50 a month and the waiting list for yer mum's knee op is 18 months long I can see why some might complain...
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 22, 2023 22:48:34 GMT
An extra £30 a month? That makes Gamepass and PS+ premium basically free, what's to complain about? Well, I have been meaning to sub again to Gamepass, so cheers Jezza! |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 22, 2023 22:52:03 GMT
I decided today that I really wasn't too interested in Jeremy Cunt's tinkering to try and curry favour for the next election so have pretty much ignored the Autumn statement. The only thing I want to hear from this government is that Parliament is being dissolved and we'll be voting the fuckers out, everything else is just noise.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 23, 2023 7:45:00 GMT
Some speculation that May is looking more likely. Time enough for people to clock the meagre extra cash (offset by an increase in energy costs...) but not long enough for the wheels to come off elsewhere.
Labour are going to have to highlight why a cut in NI ain't all that.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 23, 2023 8:42:38 GMT
Yeah, the push to get that change done and dusted in January rather than April suggests they want to have an election a few months after.
Alternatively, there are rumours Hunt is going to be out as Chancellor soon, so maybe there was an agreement that he could be seen as the figurehead of getting this done before he leaves the post. Or they are expecting more hard times next year and want out before those hit.
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Post by geefe on Nov 23, 2023 8:43:41 GMT
Not quite sure what Hunt has "achieved" or was even trying to achieve. It doesn't seem like it pleases anyone.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 23, 2023 8:50:49 GMT
Some speculation that May is looking more likely. Time enough for people to clock the meagre extra cash (offset by an increase in energy costs...) but not long enough for the wheels to come off elsewhere. Labour are going to have to highlight why a cut in NI ain't all that. Ya boi Martin Lewis was just on the TV saying this is the only reason he could think of that Hunt did this. Buying the middle class vote with an almost unnoticable amount of money. |
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 23, 2023 9:15:00 GMT
Apparently Cameron only agreed to come on if he was given a year in the job. So autumn would make more sense.
Who knows..
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Post by elstoof on Nov 23, 2023 9:20:50 GMT
That extra tenner a week will almost cover the cost of a Boots Meal Deal for the extra day you'll soon be forced back into the office for
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 23, 2023 9:42:19 GMT
Apparently Cameron only agreed to come on if he was given a year in the job. So autumn would make more sense. Who knows.. He's also just been given a job for life to get *that* job so, once again, fuck him into the sun |
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Nov 23, 2023 9:44:41 GMT
Not quite sure what Hunt has "achieved" or was even trying to achieve. It doesn't seem like it pleases anyone. I think the main goal was NOT being Kwasi Kwertang. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 23, 2023 9:50:37 GMT
Sunak will go when he thinks the timing is best for him, the window is closing and he can't be worrying about one person he gave a job to no matter what he may have promised, I can't see how Autumn next year is going to make anything turn around in his favour.
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Post by geefe on Nov 23, 2023 11:46:57 GMT
Also see the head of Ofsted says schools have "broken the social contract with parents".
Doesn't blame herself or her organisation though. All schools fault.
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Post by Youthist on Nov 23, 2023 12:11:27 GMT
Also see the head of Ofsted says schools have "broken the social contract with parents". Doesn't blame herself or her organisation though. All schools fault. Nice use of quotes - but she never said that anywhere. And she isn’t blaming the schools. |
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Post by technoish on Nov 23, 2023 12:42:26 GMT
IFS fairly brutal about the AS.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 23, 2023 13:20:24 GMT
The government got the headlines it wanted from their friends, I doubt it'll make much difference to their polling.
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