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Post by dam on Nov 17, 2023 11:14:46 GMT
I guess the Scottish government doesn't have EU roaming on their data plan. I thought I had burned a local Tory councillor by pointing out this was a Brexit benefit for them, getting an SNP scalp due to loss of free roaming, then they pointed out that Morocco isn't in the EU.... Politicians from all parties have resigned in the Scottish Gov for really small errors, so I think he has to go. It's the lying, when it was fairly predictable it would be due to something like this. He would have been ok if he had admitted the reason and covered the whole charge when it first came to light. Someone in IT should also be getting it... |
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Post by zephro on Nov 17, 2023 12:23:37 GMT
Is that how it works? As long as the givernment writes a note that says 'PS/ No laws apply to this and no international conventions apply to this and no-one can disagree with this' then that means the judges can't say it's illegal? PS/ no forum rules apply to any of my posts and no-one is allowed to disagree with anything I write. I'm not a constitutional lawyer. But Parliamentary sovereignty means no Parliament can be bound by a previous Parliament. So if the last Parliament wrote a "no gays" law any other Parliament can remove the law as being stupid. The opposite is true and they can replace good laws with bad ones etc. So yes. However I think there's some limits and some of the bullshit Braverman said wouldn't work. Eg if a foreign court or international law applies then they're under no obligation to uphold it. She also said you can bar judicial review which I don't think is possible either, though you'd need a constitution expert to work that out. Like you can make a law saying a previous law doesn't apply and it be a valid law. But the High Court still has the power to decide if it's valid for other reasons. I'm really not sure you can just go "PS the entire British common law system doesn't apply." |
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 17, 2023 12:47:11 GMT
I’m pretty sure you can’t have a law that says international law doesn’t apply, when that law applies to non UK nationals.
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Post by simple on Nov 17, 2023 12:54:48 GMT
I don’t think anything she’s said would ever work in practice but that’s not why she said.
Its like when people would get angry at the content of Johnson’s lies. He never expected you to believe it, you just needed to not be talking about whatever he wanted to distract you from.
Braverman is talking to the audience for her leadership campaign, she doesn’t give a shit about constitutional law or the limits of primary legislation.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 17, 2023 12:57:02 GMT
I think she cares about ‘getting rid’ of the immigrants but not the law. Fortunately she’ll never have the power that means she bypass the law.
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Post by simple on Nov 17, 2023 13:28:02 GMT
Just wait til she’s in Celebrity Big Brother next year, that’ll show them
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Post by Dougs on Nov 17, 2023 13:50:21 GMT
Some of the clips from QT last night are just awful. Middle-aged to elderly people spewing hatred. I'd wager none of them had heard of small boat crossings until the Govt tried to gaslight us.
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Post by deekyfun on Nov 17, 2023 13:56:19 GMT
Some of the clips from QT last night are just awful. Middle-aged to elderly people spewing hatred. I'd wager none of them had heard of small boat crossings until the Govt tried to gaslight us. They were too busy dealing with their 8 different recycling bins to hear about that. |
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Post by technoish on Nov 17, 2023 14:04:22 GMT
I guess the Scottish government doesn't have EU roaming on their data plan. I thought I had burned a local Tory councillor by pointing out this was a Brexit benefit for them, getting an SNP scalp due to loss of free roaming, then they pointed out that Morocco isn't in the EU.... Politicians from all parties have resigned in the Scottish Gov for really small errors, so I think he has to go. It's the lying, when it was fairly predictable it would be due to something like this. He would have been ok if he had admitted the reason and covered the whole charge when it first came to light. Someone in IT should also be getting it... He'd repeatedly ignored requests to update the sim and not use it. My work would disable any device used abroad without authorization though. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 17, 2023 14:29:17 GMT
Some of the clips from QT last night are just awful. Middle-aged to elderly people spewing hatred. I'd wager none of them had heard of small boat crossings until the Govt tried to gaslight us. I said this after watching some vox pops during the tamworth by election. The tories have somehow contrived to successfully manage to make 'the boats' a massive deal that people now care about while doing absolutely fuck all about them which is also riling them up and driving people to reform. They are so fucking stupid its almost painful. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 17, 2023 14:33:53 GMT
FPTP means appealing to the braindead, who will vote, gets you seats.
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Post by Chopsen on Nov 17, 2023 14:44:37 GMT
The problem they had was Farage started making THE BOATS a wedge issue, and they were terrified that this might lead to them haemorrhaging votes on the right of their party to him/Reform/UKIP-me-do, in the same way he successfully did with the Tories with Euroscepticism.
Ofc they were stupid to get dragged in to that fight, as theyr probably losing more votes now having done nothing but Streisand Effected the who situation and have no credible solution, but that's why they found themselves here.
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Post by simple on Nov 17, 2023 15:41:45 GMT
I know on the old site people disagreed but I still maintain that the influence Farage has had over the Conservative Party makes him one of, if not *the* most successful politician over the last decade in terms of having his agenda put into action, if not personally electorally.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 17, 2023 15:51:45 GMT
I know on the old site people disagreed but I still maintain that the influence Farage has had over the Conservative Party makes him one of, if not *the* most successful, corrupt, hypocritical boorish cunt over the last decade in terms of having his agenda put into action, if not personally electorally. I agree. |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 17, 2023 16:05:43 GMT
I'd say influential more than anything. But yeah, agree in general.
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Post by Danno on Nov 17, 2023 16:19:43 GMT
In case this gets deleted and it really should be and because Tweets are very fucking slow, I present the latest message from our Prime Minister.
It gets better Do scroll a little This is opposition deputy mayoral candidate of Buttfuck, Nowhere politics |
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Post by Youthist on Nov 17, 2023 16:30:09 GMT
I love how Farage was tweeting some months back about how “Britain is broken.” Yes cunt, you broke it.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Nov 17, 2023 16:30:16 GMT
Truly this is the keystone policy that will deliver the Tories the next election.
As opposed to pointless wheel-spinning that doesn’t even work as a smokescreen.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 17, 2023 16:39:06 GMT
I know on the old site people disagreed but I still maintain that the influence Farage has had over the Conservative Party makes him one of, if not *the* most successful politician over the last decade in terms of having his agenda put into action, if not personally electorally. He’s done well for a guy that used to sing Nazi songs at school. |
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Post by simple on Nov 17, 2023 16:41:22 GMT
He’s got the whole country joining in
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 17, 2023 16:41:32 GMT
Didn’t they say pot holes was a local council issue before?
They look like a right bunch of cunts stood by that hole.
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Post by Chopsen on Nov 17, 2023 16:50:30 GMT
I think there's a slight caveat in that how much of it is it him furthering a political agenda, and how much if it is him piggy backing on a populist movement to further his own stature. Euroscepticism has been a dangerous topic to the Tories for longer than he's been on the scene. It brought down Major.
Having said that, we're talking about him rather than anybody else having taken advantage of that so he's got something going on. Even if it is opaque funding from an wealthy backer with an inexplicably profitable small insurance company and his Russian wife who had a flat overlooking a navy base.
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Post by apollo on Nov 17, 2023 16:57:37 GMT
Been busy last 2 days and missed some stuff, shame about Jess Phillips resigning as she is good for the party and the country. The thing is (what others have mentioned) UK calling for ceasefire is not going to do much, Hamas has said they would rearm and carry out another terrorist attack. Both sides would want a ceasefire (as someone on here said better than me) SOME people protesting on saturday would love another October 7th like the cunts that were dressed as Hamas terrorists and that evil white women that had star of david with swastika in the middle (hamas would kill in second if they saw her on October 7th)
Also as mentioned yesterday, zero protests about myanmar and also uyghur muslims (check out Mahmoud Abbas's comments about uyghur, could be CCP money?)
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Post by technoish on Nov 17, 2023 17:10:06 GMT
Or the hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in Yemen? That's obviously a sunni vs shia thing.
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Post by zephro on Nov 18, 2023 14:19:15 GMT
Jesus fuck. www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-report/2023/11/demolition-britain-newbuild-schools-too-dangerousWe can barely even build anything anymore. For the paywalled: Different Government departments contracted out to a company Caledonian Modular, that wasn't part of proper trade bodies and went bust last year. Lots of the buildings have been condemned or demolished, with a school's survey of their brand new building saying the architect wasn't sure the walls would stay up in high wind. It's a bunch of schools, army accommodation, student halls, housing estates etc. |
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Post by X201 on Nov 18, 2023 15:06:28 GMT
Re:potholes.
I said months ago that the Tories were re-enacting the last days of the Major Govt.
This is their version of The Cones Hotline
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Post by geefe on Nov 19, 2023 15:18:52 GMT
I managed a full house yesterday with a friend
- Kier Starmer's a Tory
- Israel is committing genocide
- the media stopped Corbyn winning
- all MPs are the same
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Post by Frog on Nov 19, 2023 15:49:51 GMT
What did he respond with?
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 19, 2023 16:20:52 GMT
I managed a full house yesterday with a friend - Kier Starmer's a Tory - Israel is committing genocide - the media stopped Corbyn winning - all MPs are the same Yeah one of my mates has outed himself as a full on tankie, it’s a bit depressing as I used to really value his opinion on stuff. |
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Post by geefe on Nov 19, 2023 16:31:41 GMT
What did he respond with? Oh, you! |
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