UK Politics Thread

I wonder how many of those hundreds were people on twitter with lots of numbers after their name.

Superb questions today.

And this was probably the best joke ever:

"Starmer says Sunak sees himself as the first AI PM. But his big idea is to keep turning the government on and off and hope that will generate signs of life."

Yep, it mostly comes from people echoing bile they see in the press and likely comes from a place of ignorance. I expect the majority would act warmly to stories about a refugee entering the UK and having a successful career, starting a family, etc.

Perhaps surprisingly, a recent survey showed the UK public as actually quite strongly in favour of immigration, moreso than most European nations.

www.kcl.ac.uk/news/uk-attitudes-to-immigration-among-most-positive-internationally-1018742-pub01-115

Sunak has gone fucking loopy, we need this government gone.

It’s lip service to the far right fringes, nothing more

glol

This lot need to get in the sea.

He’s already done plenty to show he’s an awful person. He’s just so bland and well spoken that he gets away with it.

I think some of the press and the Tories try to make out that British people enjoy unnecessary cruelty. I doubt it's the truth though and people are mostly just fine. Not saints but not pantomime villains like Braverman.

I suspect various things like polling on Rawanda are affected by a few things. They've been assured it's fine there and don't have the time or inclination to look into it. They're busy trying to work out how to heat their home or feed their family, so charity is just thin on the ground now. Finally it's actually not that important to them, the top priority is the NHS etc. so the attitude is more whatever than actively for it.

Lots of long term attitudinal surveys give the impression British people are way more liberal than Europeans or Americans in general. So I suspect the culture war bollocks is attempting to be sown on barren ground, the next election will be NHS waiting lists and the cost of living. Not trans rights, not Rawanda, not Gaza.

Basically people are boring.

Are you sure? Simon Jenkins of the Guardian wrote that Sunak is a *checks notes to make sure I'm not going crazy* "honest and hardworking individual"

Simon Jenkins is a fucking bellend. Who writes books about pretty churches and any architecture after 1800 being shit I'm his spare time.

Also inflation is falling. It's technically correct. It's just most people and most journalists are so mathematically illiterate that a derivative function is beyond them. See also velocity Vs acceleration. Or actually velocity Vs speed.

I like inflation slowing better.

My conspiracy hat sees it as a move by the SNP to try and divide labour on a hot button issue.

The whole thing’s so weird. Obviously neither Hamas nor the Israeli government give a shit who says there should be a ceasefire. Nobody’s even defined the terms of a ceasefire might even be.

It’s all just performative nonsense, but yes absolutely a way to divide Labour. I’m somewhat surprised any of them have fallen for it but I guess it’s just about their constituents and what they want.

That's not even a conspiracy hat. It's just what it is.

I feel sympathy with people wanting a ceasefire. But it's not like anyone involved gives a fuck of the opinion of any non governmental UK party, they probably don't give much of a fuck about the actual UK government.

Also ceasefires require 2 parties. Does anyone trust Hamas do uphold their side of it for more than the amount of time it takes for them to rearm? Rule of acquisition 109 your dignity in a sack is worth the sack, same thing as a ceasefire with Hamas.

There's no good answer.