Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2023 19:34:04 GMT
She gave the mandateless PM a mandate of things she has no mandate to be implementing.
It’s like poetry. It rhymes.
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Nov 14, 2023 20:02:06 GMT
I can't get over this line
I've just gone through the 2019 manifesto and there is NOTHING about gender, in schools or otherwise, so point 4 is a complete fabrication. Point 2 is also not in there, nothing about boats at all. And point 3 about the Northern Ireland protocol can't have been in the 2019 manifesto because it wasn't concluded until 2020. She's just so full of shit pretending that this stuff isn't her own pet obsessions.
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zephro
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Post by zephro on Nov 14, 2023 20:20:00 GMT
Aww man if he genuinely agreed to a written deal with a headbanger like Braverman that's an absolute own goal. Delightful. This is what I don't get, she had literally just resigned because she'd broken the minesterial code by passing sensitive documents. How the fuck is she in a position to be negotiating this kind of shit? Exactly! Her general rant is incredibly predictable, but Sunak being dumb enough to have that shit written down (her team were hinting they still have a copy), is just batshit. I'm still picturing Malcolm Tucker walking into the room and bollocking him for writing anything down. |
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 14, 2023 20:24:15 GMT
This is what I don't get, she had literally just resigned because she'd broken the minesterial code by passing sensitive documents. How the fuck is she in a position to be negotiating this kind of shit?
Presumably, it was the price she demanded for endorsing Sunak instead of Johnson - who had just flown back from a speaking tour/holiday/whatever the fuck he does these days, intent on taking over from Truss - and Sunak the Spineless was happy, or at least willing, to pay it.
Less a "document outlining her conditions for serving as his home secretary", as the BBC puts it, and more of a "document outlining her demands in exchange for declaring herself #Ready4Rishi."
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 14, 2023 20:57:10 GMT
I must say it's truly impressive to get sacked as Home Secretary TWICE and still be an absolute colossal prick about it without a shred of humility while crowing about your own imagined successes.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 21:05:58 GMT
I can't get over this line I've just gone through the 2019 manifesto and there is NOTHING about gender, in schools or otherwise, so point 4 is a complete fabrication. Point 2 is also not in there, nothing about boats at all. And point 3 about the Northern Ireland protocol can't have been in the 2019 manifesto because it wasn't concluded until 2020. She's just so full of shit pretending that this stuff isn't her own pet obsessions. It's almost as if she's a lying, self-obsessed tool that'll say anything to make herself look better. Oh, wait. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 14, 2023 21:07:54 GMT
On the bright side it has been amazing to see the Tory party tacitly admit it has nothing left. The well is dry. This is the end.
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2023 21:13:28 GMT
lol. No it’s not. We have another year of these twats fighting like cats in a bag
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2023 21:27:44 GMT
I must say it's truly impressive to get sacked as Home Secretary TWICE and still be an absolute colossal prick about it without a shred of humility while crowing about your own imagined successes. She was the Attorney General with a command of English law lower than Saul Goodman, who is not only American but fictional.
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zephro
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Post by zephro on Nov 14, 2023 21:30:03 GMT
lol. No it’s not. We have another year of these twats fighting like cats in a bag There were rumours that the shortness of the legislation list could signal a spring election. More likely they're just out of ideas though. |
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Post by elstoof on Nov 14, 2023 21:32:27 GMT
Pretty cool that the new environment Secretary is married to a sewage dumping water board executive
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 21:35:23 GMT
Pretty cool that the new environment Secretary is married to a sewage dumping water board executive Someone's got to help drain the swamp innit |
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Nov 14, 2023 21:40:06 GMT
incidentally, when Suella Braverman was AG, the SG at the time was current Justice Minister Alex Chalk. Who, given he's on the left of the tory party (not saying much, I know) and facing lib dems in remain voting cheltenham with naught but a majority of, like, 4 to defend him, I'm guessing wouldn't be too upset if government lose the supreme court ruling tomorrow
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 21:42:08 GMT
I had a very scary thought and I really hope we're not in that timeline...
What if the Supreme Court votes in favour of whatever Suella is supporting? Can you imagine the sheer entitled cuntery we'll see from her? Today's letter will be less than nothing in comparison...
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Nov 14, 2023 21:45:51 GMT
what is it about the last ~ten years gave you hope that we're not in that timeline?
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Onny
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Post by Onny on Nov 14, 2023 22:01:46 GMT
I had a very scary thought and I really hope we're not in that timeline... What if the Supreme Court votes in favour of whatever Suella is supporting? Can you imagine the sheer entitled cuntery we'll see from her? Today's letter will be less than nothing in comparison... She’s already covered that off: So she herself admits that even if the government win they still won’t really be able to send people to Rwanda. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Nov 14, 2023 22:04:53 GMT
I can’t help thinking a far more effective anti-immigration policy would be to send people to do temping in Suella’s office rather than the comparatively cushy Rwanda.
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Post by oldskooldeano on Nov 14, 2023 22:09:06 GMT
lol. No it’s not. We have another year of these twats fighting like cats in a bag There were rumours that the shortness of the legislation list could signal a spring election. More likely they're just out of ideas though. I just can’t see it. They will drag this out to the very bitter end. |
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Nov 14, 2023 22:11:20 GMT
Having gone through the 2019 manifesto it's remarkable how much of it has been completely abandoned already.
HS2 was one of the centre pieces of the whole document and that's gone, not to mention how everything from schools to hospitals are going to be swimming in investment from all the brexit money.
I'm sure we called it out at the time but it's truly a document that was made up during a massive coke bender with zero costing in it.
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Post by X201 on Nov 14, 2023 22:17:36 GMT
Pretty cool that the new environment Secretary is married to a sewage dumping water board executive I'll see your Environment Secretary and raise you:
The new Health Secretary is married to the head of British Sugar. He is also head of of the largest medicinal cannabis farm in the UK
So, no conflicts of interest there
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Nov 14, 2023 22:17:42 GMT
I can’t help thinking a far more effective anti-immigration policy would be to send people to do temping in Suella’s office rather than the comparatively cushy Rwanda. the woke liberal lefty snowflake Geneva Convention specifically outlaws cruel and unusual punishment |
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Post by zephro on Nov 14, 2023 22:22:14 GMT
There were rumours that the shortness of the legislation list could signal a spring election. More likely they're just out of ideas though. I just can’t see it. They will drag this out to the very bitter end. It was very much the Labour front bench are suspicious and prepping just in case. The rumour that is. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 22:22:56 GMT
what is it about the last ~ten years gave you hope that we're not in that timeline? Well, um... We've had some pretty good games released...? (Let me hope, man 😅) |
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Post by technoish on Nov 14, 2023 22:27:17 GMT
I've heard talk of an early early Budget, which would support Spring election.
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 14, 2023 22:35:38 GMT
I'd hope for a spring/summer election. It isn't going to happen.
Electoral math just doesn't add up for the Tories, just go as long as possible and hope something turns up to turn their fortunes around. In the meantime, sow culture war division and put the message out that 'we're all the same, so why not vote for us?'
Bizarrely, it could end up saving the Tory party or utterly destroy it.
I hope for the latter, but then, nothing works out the way I hope.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 14, 2023 22:44:42 GMT
It was very much the Labour front bench are suspicious and prepping just in case. The rumour that is. I've been saying that for yonks. Although from what I hear, given the Tories need to fight every seat and can't rely on minimal canvassing, they need more cash. Hence a later election. |
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Nov 14, 2023 22:48:27 GMT
I've heard talk of an early early Budget, which would support Spring election. autumn statement's pencilled in for next week ain't it? |
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Post by Blue_Mike on Nov 14, 2023 23:10:44 GMT
How do you even write a resignation letter after being sacked?
Oh yeah, by having less self awareness than a crash test dummy.
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zephro
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Post by zephro on Nov 14, 2023 23:14:27 GMT
It was very much the Labour front bench are suspicious and prepping just in case. The rumour that is. I've been saying that for yonks. Although from what I hear, given the Tories need to fight every seat and can't rely on minimal canvassing, they need more cash. Hence a later election. You'd think that would have the opposite pressure. The longer this goes on, the more money they'll have burnt on business as usual, fighting the local and regional elections in May and all the while their big donors deciding to call it quits and try give Labour some money on the off chance. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 23:18:41 GMT
How do you even write a resignation letter after being sacked?
Oh yeah, by having less self awareness than a crash test dummy.
"You can't fire me, I QUIT!" "Um, Mrs. Braverman, he... already did..." "...Well I quit ANYWAY!" |
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