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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 13, 2023 22:23:39 GMT
I would like to nominate a Minster of Wankery Now there's a position this "government" has no shortage of talent for...
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 13, 2023 22:26:29 GMT
Another leader will fix things! Couldn't even find someone to proofread this shit, could she? Grammar errors, syntax errors, stream-of-consciousness writing flow and punctuation... Oh, and the contents are bollocks too. 3/10, see me after class.
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Post by britesparc on Nov 13, 2023 23:44:26 GMT
That letter is absolute madness, the ravings of a frothingly angry person farting pure rage.
Unhinged is the word that springs most to mind.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2023 0:11:13 GMT
Thank fuck she was Education minister for less than two months with those writing skills.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2023 0:21:05 GMT
I think Piers Morgan is an insufferable prick but this was only going to go one way. Len McCluskey didn't prevaricate at least
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 14, 2023 0:27:18 GMT
They're both terrible.
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Post by anthonyuk on Nov 14, 2023 1:22:05 GMT
I hate Corybn for bursting on the scene the way he did, giving a little ray of hope to the point he generated the biggest youth vote for 25 years.
He had a message, principled for sure. But peeling below the surface revealed a ridiculous amount of self righteousness and total lack of self awareness. I'm sure he's even convinced himself all the antisemitism findings even now were nonsense.
After the dust settled, I guess I hated him most for not being what alot of people hoped and revealing to be who he actually is.
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Post by Danno on Nov 14, 2023 1:39:19 GMT
Another leader will fix things! Couldn't even find someone to proofread this shit, could she? Grammar errors, syntax errors, stream-of-consciousness writing flow and punctuation... Oh, and the contents are bollocks too. 3/10, see me after class. Wasn't she minister for the middle finger at people outside Downing St, or am I misremembering
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 1:59:50 GMT
Couldn't even find someone to proofread this shit, could she? Grammar errors, syntax errors, stream-of-consciousness writing flow and punctuation... Oh, and the contents are bollocks too. 3/10, see me after class. Wasn't she minister for the middle finger at people outside Downing St, or am I misremembering Indeed she was
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Post by Danno on Nov 14, 2023 2:58:57 GMT
Wasn't she minister for the middle finger at people outside Downing St, or am I misremembering Indeed she wasWait aren't you in Greece? And replying to this at 4am? What gives Jnr?
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Post by JonFE on Nov 14, 2023 5:35:53 GMT
Danno He's a nightbird mate, don't you know? Awake most of the night to deal with his uni and gaming business, then asleep most of the evening
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 14, 2023 7:39:24 GMT
I think Piers Morgan is an insufferable prick but this was only going to go one way. Len McCluskey didn't prevaricate at least "YOU JUST SHOUT AT PEOPLE!!!!" Shouted Magic Grandpa. Corbyn always had such a temper whenever put under pressure. I always felt it bizarre that people had this cuddly image of him.
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Post by geefe on Nov 14, 2023 7:47:17 GMT
I think Corbyn did so much damage to a lot of "sensible" politics, especially for the under 40s, who still have this blinkered view of him
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Post by Vortex on Nov 14, 2023 7:57:09 GMT
Tory minister on the bbc news earlier banging on about how the tories issues are due to the deficit Labour left. Made the point twice while trying to defend the return of cameron.
Newsreader retorts 'It's like 2010 here'.
Glol.
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Post by kingbambino on Nov 14, 2023 8:05:47 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 14, 2023 8:17:44 GMT
Yes. I wouldn’t say Corbyn comes off well either.
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Post by apollo on Nov 14, 2023 8:19:22 GMT
Not surprised Corbyn will not say if he thinks Hamas is terror group because he is always been deeply sympathetic to them and sure he called them friends or was Hellbozah? He does like his terror groups.
I agree with the other post that JC is self righteousness and has total lack of self awareness and reminds of people that use to post on another UK forum that were refuse to say anything about people calling for westerns to be killed etc on the the UK streets- the usual spiel about "don't agree with his view but I support his right to say it!!!!1111" or one man's freedom fighter...." when some shit stain has murdered some people on the streets of france while shouting god is great
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Post by kingbambino on Nov 14, 2023 9:01:48 GMT
Yes. I wouldn’t say Corbyn comes off well either. No he doesn’t at all. He does himself no favours . But I’d rather listen to something like this than Morgan shout at people. Even if they answer his questions he continues to not let them talk for longer than 5 seconds . Issue with Corbyn is he comes across too one sided youtu.be/FougS5VFsq4?si=0A3AdF8krcXdqFVW
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 14, 2023 9:14:55 GMT
Given the events of the last year or so, if Corbyn had been in charge his tankie foreign policy views would have been disastrous in regards to Ukraine and the Israel / Palestine situation.
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Post by kingbambino on Nov 14, 2023 9:27:43 GMT
Given the events of the last year or so, if Corbyn had been in charge his tankie foreign policy views would have been disastrous in regards to Ukraine and the Israel / Palestine situation. Agree, it’s just a shame that we live in a world that Boris was the better alternative
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Post by apollo on Nov 14, 2023 9:34:10 GMT
Given the events of the last year or so, if Corbyn had been in charge his tankie foreign policy views would have been disastrous in regards to Ukraine and the Israel / Palestine situation. He wouldn't of helped Ukraine apart from "thoughts and prayers"
he urged the west not to arm Ukraine as well
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Nov 14, 2023 9:36:44 GMT
Yeah, I have to say my view on him has changed, at one point I thought he might be a real catalyst for positive change. Generally speaking my view on the Labour Party has changed for the worse.
Now I've reached a state of dulled ambivalence and morbid curiosity about what political freakshow will arise next in the UK and US.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 14, 2023 9:39:31 GMT
Still think a Corbyn led government would have managed COVID far better than the Johnson one did. They would have been torn apart by the papers for spending too much money (which would have been less with their approach than the Johnson government) and for taking away liberties (also less than the Johnson government), but I'm sure our death rate would have been lower.
Ukraine would have been a disaster though. Hopefully there would have been some sensible people in the room to say that they need to offer support at least at a continued rate (I understand we were already sending quite a lot of equipment and support to Ukraine for a number of years). In the grand scheme of things, it likely wouldn't have made a huge difference, as US is by far the biggest contributor to Ukraine's defence, but the messaging would have been awful and further damaged UK's reputation on the world stage.
Israel-Palestine would have been an absolute disaster and torn the party apart by a far greater extent then it is at the moment.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2023 9:46:21 GMT
ChatGPT would have handled COVID better than the Johnson government.
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Post by simple on Nov 14, 2023 9:54:45 GMT
Am I remembering correctly that at the time he opposed the interventions against Serbia NATO aggression/expansionism?
There’s a whole slice of the old left, which has bled through to the generation who’ve learned their politics from memes, where their domestic politics seems enormously attractive but their foreign policy instincts are still utterly Cold War. And there’s zero examination of these position as if instead of thinking having good opinions makes someone good they’ve got it flipped and say I am good so none of my opinions could possibly be bad.
On COVID a Labour government turning the cash taps on to the NHS and social care provision probably would’ve been cheaper than the Johnson-Hancock approach of handing multi-billion pound cheques to companies with no prior experience in medical care. Privatisation is almost always more expensive to the Treasury than public ownership, look at the trains and water companies, or prisons, or social care, or emergency housing, or additional hospital beds.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2023 9:55:53 GMT
Yeah, I have to say my view on him has changed, at one point I thought he might be a real catalyst for positive change. I suppose the issue is that you seemingly cant have one without the other. With branding stripped, his policies all tested well. People love a bit of socialism, really. But positive domestic policy seems to come married to terrible international ones. Also, tbh, as good as his policies were, he would have shit the bed at every opportunity. He's just not a good politician. The opposition and press would have run rings around him.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 14, 2023 10:17:46 GMT
Danno He's a nightbird mate, don't you know? Awake most of the night to deal with his uni and gaming business, then asleep most of the evening It helps that this week is rather relaxed due to Friday being November 17th... And that due to some extended family matters I've kind of screwed up my sleep schedule
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Post by kal on Nov 14, 2023 10:47:35 GMT
Who knows how Corbyn would have dealt with Covid. I don’t think anyone really has any sense of what kind of PM he would have been because he rarely talked about domestic policy in a meaningful way beyond 6th form politics type “free broadband” ideas.
He’s never really been a proper politician. He’s a classic fringe type with very strong vocal opinions on very specific issues, in his case foreign policy.
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Post by simple on Nov 14, 2023 11:00:03 GMT
That he seems to crumble under pressure and gets furious when challenged doesn’t feel like a great match for a crisis either. Although we all know that John McDonnell would’ve been the actual boss and he appears better at being a politician than Corbyn.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 14, 2023 11:15:20 GMT
I have always said you could go full ancient greek and pick a government randomly from the population and they would have done a better job with covid.
That said, there is probably a sliding doors universe with Corbyn victorious and less people died but we are all living in tents or something.
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