Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 9, 2023 9:54:31 GMT
Sunak, May and Thatcher do prove that the old men will hold their noses and vote for anyone if they hate the right people.
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Nov 9, 2023 9:58:20 GMT
but the membership didn't vote for Sunak, and didn't get a chance to vote for May... actually I'm not sure that helps my point as the membership are even madder than the parliametary party... yeah, oh well, mad bastards it is
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Post by geefe on Nov 9, 2023 10:01:39 GMT
May almost lost against fucking Corbyn, Truss would lose, Sunak is going to lose. If it wasn't for Boris, they'd have been booted years ago.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 9, 2023 10:02:02 GMT
They did vote for Truss, though, and there are plenty of Asian MPs. I dunno. I do think one of the admirable things about the Tories is that they are quite pragmatic about their dislike of the foreign and the poor
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 9, 2023 10:11:59 GMT
"They may be racist cunts, but they're consistent in their racist cuntiness!" is quite the slogan  |
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 9, 2023 10:19:15 GMT
Boris: for your eyes only, is that a whole chapter about the time she waited in number 10 wearing nothing but a fur coat Made from her own minge hair. I think I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say eeeewwwwww!!!!!! Buffy Summers - Paraphrased. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 9, 2023 10:34:38 GMT
Yvette Cooper chose to use both barrels today.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 9, 2023 10:37:04 GMT
May almost lost against fucking Corbyn, Truss would lose, Sunak is going to lose. If it wasn't for Boris, they'd have been booted years ago. To be fair to May, the dislike of Corbyn didn't really set in until the 2019 election. When it came to 2017, a lot of people, particularly the young, were excited about his message, something that had disappeared by 2019 for anyone but the diehards. And Johnson is not the big vote winner that everyone likes to claim he is. His big game plan was basically to lie about being able to solve Brexit easily and a lot of people were so fed up with everything that had gone on in the past few years that they lapped up the easy answer he presented. Even some of those that voted remain wanted it over and probably voted for him. Without Brexit or without Corbyn, I don't think he would have won. The myth of him being an election winner mostly seems to come from the fact that he runs away from votes if it looks like he won't win and only hangs about if he is certain to win. As for the future, I feel confident in saying Labour will win in 2024 and really it just comes down to how big the majority will be. After that though is anyone's guess and I almost feel it doesn't matter who they are up against. If after 4/5 years of Labour our economy is still in the toilet, then I feel whoever is charge of the Tories will be walking into No. 10. With the state of their membership, I fully expect it to be a loon. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 9, 2023 10:49:13 GMT
Labour need to win big enough to bake the failure into conservative DNA. The kind of humiliating defeat their grand children remember.
I know it wont drive any positive self reflection but they need to get ground into paste to ensure we never end up with such a shower of shit anywhere near the halls of power again.
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Post by Youthist on Nov 9, 2023 11:00:29 GMT
It’s hard to imagine at this point that it won’t be the biggest Tory drubbing in history. It will be enjoyable to witness it.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 9, 2023 11:03:44 GMT
The problem is that (possibly stating the obvious), intentionally or accidentally, the Tories have made such a mess that Labour fixing everything during one term is unreasonable, and the cunts will make sure to bleat about it every chance they get and trumpet how much better they could do if they were in charge... Until they're back in charge.
It's a classic move, once you know you're on your way out you create a pile of shit too big to handle, spend your time in the opposition throwing said shit at those in charge, get reelected, profit...
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Post by Youthist on Nov 9, 2023 11:07:19 GMT
If they get properly butt fucked then I reckon it gives Labour two terms before the inevitable Tory return.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 9, 2023 11:16:13 GMT
If there were any justice then they would be the 4th biggest party after the general election. They won't be, as there is 20-25% of people that will vote for them if they stuck a blue rosette on a Cameron-fucked pig.
The best we can probably hope for is that they have a Labour-like 2019 defeat.
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Post by rawshark on Nov 9, 2023 11:18:17 GMT
Nadine Dorries is saying Braverman/Enoch Powell is trying to get sacked at this rate to garner favour with the extreme right. I can't see how that would work out for her, although I'm not saying she isn't stupid enough to try it. And you know she'd get a big money contract with GB News before the ink on her dismissal letter was dry.
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minimatt
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Post by minimatt on Nov 9, 2023 11:30:41 GMT
worth putting a couple of quid on the lettuce at this point
"No 10 did not sign off the final version of Suella Braverman’s article accusing the police of being biased, The Telegraph can reveal.
The Home Secretary and her team defied No 10 by ignoring some of their requested edits to her article.
Four sources have confirmed to this newspaper that some changes demanded by Downing Street in the Home Secretary’s article in The Times, in which she accused the police of “playing favourites” with Left-wing protesters, were not incorporated in the final version" |
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Post by geefe on Nov 9, 2023 12:08:12 GMT
If she gets sacked, can she be de selected?
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 9, 2023 12:09:00 GMT
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Post by X201 on Nov 9, 2023 12:11:53 GMT
If she gets sacked, can she be de selected? Only by her local constituency. The local associations are a bit iffy about the Parliamentary party dictating who a local candidate should be.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 9, 2023 12:14:20 GMT
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Post by X201 on Nov 9, 2023 12:18:27 GMT
Sunak did not clear the article - Spokesperson says.
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 9, 2023 12:18:31 GMT
It’s purposely very hard to fully get rid of an MP. It is within Sunaks power to make sure she never sees the light of day again, though, which he seems like far too much of a fanny to do.
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Post by geefe on Nov 9, 2023 12:19:03 GMT
If she gets sacked, can she be de selected? Only by her local constituency. The local associations are a bit iffy about the Parliamentary party dictating who a local candidate should be.
Could she be expelled from the party? |
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Post by X201 on Nov 9, 2023 12:22:48 GMT
Only by her local constituency. The local associations are a bit iffy about the Parliamentary party dictating who a local candidate should be.
Could she be expelled from the party? They could take the whip if they wanted. But they won't. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 9, 2023 12:24:29 GMT
They're not going to expel her from the party, Christ Sunak hasn't even got the balls to sack her from a job he gave back to her after even Liz fucking Truss fired her for security breaches.
He's a weak, ineffectual cunt and everyone knows it.
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Post by apollo on Nov 9, 2023 12:26:17 GMT
The problem is that (possibly stating the obvious), intentionally or accidentally, the Tories have made such a mess that Labour fixing everything during one term is unreasonable, and the cunts will make sure to bleat about it every chance they get and trumpet how much better they could do if they were in charge... Until they're back in charge. It's a classic move, once you know you're on your way out you create a pile of shit too big to handle, spend your time in the opposition throwing said shit at those in charge, get reelected, profit... thats what the republicans did, blame Biden for things trump did and the republicans cults lapped it up like horse paste. (My former inlaws were trump supporters and blamed "the libs" for everything trump did
the tories will blame labour for their mess
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Post by geefe on Nov 9, 2023 12:29:58 GMT
The thing is he clearly wants to do something if they've openly said they didn't approve it. I just don't get the end game. Make them both look bad?
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Post by X201 on Nov 9, 2023 12:34:07 GMT
So,she was sacked for breaking the Ministerial Code.
Re-appointed almost instantly.
and this latest outburst looks like she's broken the code again - The ministerial code says "all major interviews and media appearances, both print and broadcast, should "be agreed with the No 10 Press Office".
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 9, 2023 12:42:36 GMT
Lol, "Minsterial Code". What's that again?
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 9, 2023 12:45:08 GMT
Lol, "Minsterial Code". What's that again? Sounds like a fancy way to say "toilet paper" |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 9, 2023 12:49:30 GMT
Less a document of rules to be followed more something that projects vibes.
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