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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 4, 2023 10:45:43 GMT
Saying the quiet part out loud there with othering the homeless. They're not people they're a "nuisance".
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 4, 2023 10:48:26 GMT
Yeah Suella doubling down on the homeless shite today, in her case I don't think it's performative bullshit to appeal to a base of very horrible voters I just think she's such a disgusting cunt of the highest order that she's achieved a level of stupidity that transcends time and space. She's comically evil but not funny.
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Post by zephro on Nov 4, 2023 11:34:14 GMT
She is appealing to a base it's just not voters particularly. It's the Tory membership who are all fucking cranks. They all know they've lost the next election so they're appealing to the 200,000 members rather than any number of millions of voters.
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 4, 2023 11:39:37 GMT
Yeah Suella doubling down on the homeless shite today, in her case I don't think it's performative bullshit to appeal to a base of very horrible voters I just think she's such a disgusting cunt of the highest order that she's achieved a level of stupidity that transcends time and space. She's comically evil but not funny. Maybe the comforting way to think of her is as the new William Hague. She is angling to become leader of the opposition that has no chance of doing anything. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 4, 2023 11:40:27 GMT
Yeah Suella doubling down on the homeless shite today, in her case I don't think it's performative bullshit to appeal to a base of very horrible voters I just think she's such a disgusting cunt of the highest order that she's achieved a level of stupidity that transcends time and space. She's comically evil but not funny. Maybe the comforting way to think of her is as the new William Hague. She is angling to become leader of the opposition that has no chance of doing anything. Why would you jinx things like that?! |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 4, 2023 11:54:55 GMT
I don't think the current Met commissioner is all that impressed with her either.
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Post by X201 on Nov 4, 2023 13:35:07 GMT
Yeah Suella doubling down on the homeless shite today, in her case I don't think it's performative bullshit to appeal to a base of very horrible voters I just think she's such a disgusting cunt of the highest order that she's achieved a level of stupidity that transcends time and space. She's comically evil but not funny. Maybe the comforting way to think of her is as the new William Hague. She is angling to become leader of the opposition that has no chance of doing anything. William Hague. Forever immortalised in the lyrics of Paul Heaton’s song, One Man’s England, as “the fool in baseball cap” 😀 |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 4, 2023 14:06:32 GMT
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Post by zephro on Nov 4, 2023 14:16:15 GMT
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Post by bichii2 on Nov 4, 2023 15:43:26 GMT
Suella is genuinely a nasty piece of shit. Many in the gov are messed up but she wins I think
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Post by cubby on Nov 4, 2023 15:50:58 GMT
Apparently it's a "lifestyle choice"🤨  KEEP THE "LAW ABIDING MAJORITY" OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH! |
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Post by apollo on Nov 4, 2023 16:41:04 GMT
I'm sure there is no link between the tories and the amount of homeless on the streets....
A change of goverment can't come quick enough. Also fuck all the twats on other sites still calling other parties the "red tories" they want scorched earth unless the "chosen one" comes in from the allotments or sitting on the train floor
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Post by geefe on Nov 4, 2023 18:04:24 GMT
Can the Tories and Labour just fuck off their lunatics and go back to being vaguely normal?
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Post by X201 on Nov 4, 2023 18:27:51 GMT
“We’re a broad church”
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Post by X201 on Nov 4, 2023 19:18:07 GMT
Braverman has actually said something that the whole country agrees with. Unfortunately, it was buried in a load of other crap.
"What I want to stop, and what the law-abiding majority wants us to stop, is those who cause nuisance and distress to other people by pitching tents in public spaces, aggressively begging, stealing, taking drugs, littering and blighting our communities."
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 4, 2023 19:31:47 GMT
Also, just to pick up on the facts as well, there hasn’t been an explosion of crime in San Francisco. The overall rates are pretty flat and it’s one of the safest cities in America.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 4, 2023 19:47:28 GMT
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Post by Vortex on Nov 4, 2023 19:49:31 GMT
I thought the essence of being british was taking the piss & undermining our values ffs.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 4, 2023 19:52:32 GMT
Considering undermining UK democracy is government policy they should all be rotting in jail.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 5, 2023 17:47:37 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 5, 2023 20:36:40 GMT
30p Lee having to pay out rather more money after being a dick. As James O'Brien tweeted he joins Nigel Farage in getting owned by a dolphin.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 6, 2023 7:25:31 GMT
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 6, 2023 11:19:31 GMT
Also, just to pick up on the facts as well, there hasn’t been an explosion of crime in San Francisco. The overall rates are pretty flat and it’s one of the safest cities in America. My mate went to San Francisco a couple of months ago, he had been 15 years ago so was a return visit. He said he had never seen so many homeless people in his life and it was completely different to when he last went. Not sure what is going on there, but there is definitely an issue. |
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Post by Frog on Nov 6, 2023 11:54:10 GMT
It's because house prices in SF are absolutely mental.
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 6, 2023 12:11:37 GMT
But still no explosion in crime.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 6, 2023 12:17:30 GMT
Honestly, I've often heard that particular US cities are bad for homelessness, but my experience has mostly been them all being fairly bad (I've been to Boston, New York, Washington DC, Atlanta, Memphis, LA and Seattle). Atlanta was probably the worst I've seen, although mostly because the racial divide was really striking, but they all have clearly had a problem (the exception being Boston, which I don't recall seeing much).
Our homelessness situation nowadays isn't much better than the US though and I expect the numbers are proportionally similar. I would say I saw just as much in those cities as I would in London now (if anything Seattle this year was probably less than I would see in London).
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Post by zephro on Nov 6, 2023 12:58:07 GMT
Honestly, I've often heard that particular US cities are bad for homelessness, but my experience has mostly been them all being fairly bad (I've been to Boston, New York, Washington DC, Atlanta, Memphis, LA and Seattle). Atlanta was probably the worst I've seen, although mostly because the racial divide was really striking, but they all have clearly had a problem (the exception being Boston, which I don't recall seeing much). Our homelessness situation nowadays isn't much better than the US though and I expect the numbers are proportionally similar. I would say I saw just as much in those cities as I would in London now (if anything Seattle this year was probably less than I would see in London). It's absolutely not the case. I just grabbed the San Francisco data as I've seen that myself. So obviously statistics reporting varies, I've gone with rough sleeping. As UK homeless figures include people in temporary shelter provided by the council etc. So rough sleeping is probably what's being discussed and is more comparable due to differences in safety nets across countries. which are per night statistics: So London and England: linkSo on a given night across England it was around 3000 people, London was 858 of that. So London clearly has the worst problem of it in the UK. That's more than doubled from around 400 in 2010. I think there was an all time low in the mid 2000s, before the financial crash under new Labour. Then annual reports for London link it affects 10,000 people a year (difference being not every one of them sleeps rough every night), up from something like 3,500 when the Tories took over. So it's gotten substantially worse, Tories are cunts etc. etc. So reporting area for London is the GLA, so population is 8,796,628. England is somewhere around 56,490,048 (census was a couple years ago) So from San Francisco City & County's own website: link They don't seem to do the same double level of reports as the UK does (e.g. number of people effected in a year vs point in time counts) but the point in time counts are 4-5000 unsheltered homeless people. That's in an administrative area of 808,437 population. I quickly looked up Atlanta, but the government website is unavailable in the EU due to GDPR for some reason, so I found atlantamission.org/understanding-the-problem/ Which seems to imply 700 unsheltered, but doesn't make it clear if that's annual or point in time, plus I cannot be fucked trying to work out which administrative population of Atlanta they mean. As that's some epic suburban sprawl. Obviously there can be some quirks on differences in measurement in different jurisdictions (made worse by US states undoubtably doing things different to one another). But it's orders of magnitude different. |
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Post by geefe on Nov 6, 2023 13:05:03 GMT
SF is ridiculously expensive. Family friends pay something daft like $3k a month for a 1 bed flat. Mate of mine who was in Brooklyn was paying $1500 pcm for a room in a flatshare
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 6, 2023 13:10:50 GMT
You know the obvious right wing answer is that no one forces them to live there and they should go somewhere cheaper.
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Post by geefe on Nov 6, 2023 13:12:47 GMT
I think the issue is that because much of the US is a bit crap, the nice areas cost a fucking fortune.
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