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Post by Dougs on Oct 19, 2023 21:22:25 GMT
Labour telling Sky they're confident of Tamworth. Less likely in mid-Beds.
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Post by Danno on Oct 19, 2023 21:27:25 GMT
Thanks all
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 19, 2023 21:40:44 GMT
Labour telling Sky they're confident of Tamworth. Less likely in mid-Beds. Which is what most of the polling has been showing for a while. I expect even if they thought they had taken mid-Beds, they aren't going to say so at this stage. It is likely to be very close.
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Post by X201 on Oct 19, 2023 21:47:07 GMT
Of course that statement doesn’t rule out the Lib Dem’s doing well in Mid Beds
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Post by Rich on Oct 19, 2023 22:29:14 GMT
I think it's been justifiably predicted that Tories will keep Mid Beds as Labour and Lib Dems split the vote. If so it will hopefully be the kick up the arse they need.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 19, 2023 23:47:12 GMT
Watching BBC and both sides sounding a bit down. Internal numbers would normally give them a good idea as to what is going to happen by now, but seems they might both be a bit in the dark.
Think it quite likely the Lib Dems will have screwed Labour in Mid Beds. Might turn out to not be such a bad thing, if it leads to a little more cooperation in the General Election.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 20, 2023 2:25:48 GMT
2-0 to Labour, two of the safest Conservative seats in the country have flipped.
LOL.
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Post by Lizard on Oct 20, 2023 2:52:45 GMT
Obligatory 'cos Labour are Tories'.
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Post by Rich on Oct 20, 2023 4:20:09 GMT
Yet more clear evidence that people definitely do not want a general election.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 20, 2023 5:20:50 GMT
Oooof, massive swings. Repeated across the country would leave the Tories with less than 50 seats!
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Post by djronz on Oct 20, 2023 5:46:31 GMT
Despite the heavy loses for conservatives last night, It still perplexes me that so many people are still prepared to put an X next to tory.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 20, 2023 6:21:52 GMT
GE 31/1/25 then?
Go on Sunak you fucking coward. Call an election. Put us and your miserable zombie government out of our misery.
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Post by X201 on Oct 20, 2023 6:23:23 GMT
Oooof, massive swings. Repeated across the country would leave the Tories with less than 50 seats! Election Maps have it as 20. 20! That would leave the Conservatives as the fourth or fifth largest party
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 20, 2023 6:28:33 GMT
I actually had a bet on cons winning mid beds, due to the received wisdom that LD and labour will just get in each others way and the odds weren't too bad.
Make money or see the Tories get a pasting. Win win.
Even if I lost, this is the most satisfying outcome.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 20, 2023 6:39:09 GMT
I didn't manage to stay awake until the result came in (waited until the estimated results time of 1.40), but as I left, Lib Dems were saying Labour on track to win and it was because the Dems had split the Tory vote.
Guess there is some logic there. I can see a lot of Tory voters saying they can't vote red, but give their X to the Lib Dems to show discontent with their usual side.
Whatever the method, still a great result. Shame it means we are probably going to have to wait even longer to see it repeated across the country.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 20, 2023 6:39:32 GMT
GE 31/1/25 then? Go on Sunak you fucking coward. Call an election. Put us and your miserable zombie government out of our misery. At what point do Labour start bringing no confidence motions?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 20, 2023 6:40:02 GMT
You weren’t far off, tbf. They split the gains pretty evenly.
Alistair Strathern (Lab) 13,872 (34.07%, +12.39%) Festus Akinbusoye (C) 12,680 (31.14%, -28.65%) Emma Holland-Lindsay (LD) 9,420 (23.13%, +10.51%)
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 20, 2023 6:43:37 GMT
Oooof, massive swings. Repeated across the country would leave the Tories with less than 50 seats! Election Maps have it as 20. 20! That would leave the Conservatives as the fourth or fifth largest party I believe it would actually make Cons the fourth biggest party (Lib Dems 2nd and SNP 3rd). It's a reflection where they should be after the last few years, although unlikely to actually become reality.
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Post by elstoof on Oct 20, 2023 6:45:06 GMT
Lol
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Post by hicksy on Oct 20, 2023 6:50:41 GMT
Time to bring Liz back!
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Post by dfunked on Oct 20, 2023 6:55:54 GMT
Nice news to wake up to! Good to see that Sunak's shrewdly timed attempt at seeming like he's a real leader didn't work.
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Post by Rich on Oct 20, 2023 6:58:34 GMT
Lol at Greg Hands. Apparently Labour taking two safe seats off them doesn't in any way demonstrate that people actually want change.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 20, 2023 6:59:41 GMT
Beautiful news.
However I still don't believe this country is competent enough to vote like this in the General Election, it would destroy the Conservative party.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 20, 2023 7:06:11 GMT
Greg Hands - "there’s been a lot of, if you like, background circumstances in those two by-elections that have also made the job difficult for us. But clearly we need to reflect on that and we need to continue to deliver against our priorities"
Don't make me quote the great philosopher Vaas at you Greg!
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 20, 2023 7:13:54 GMT
The ‘background circumstances’ being *gestures at the entire country*
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Post by Dougs on Oct 20, 2023 7:18:34 GMT
Depressingly, this will be the inevitable response.
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Post by Frog on Oct 20, 2023 7:29:29 GMT
That would be great though, the public hate her and will just piss off voters even more when she starts piping up.
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Post by Danno on Oct 20, 2023 7:30:41 GMT
This is rather good
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Post by geefe on Oct 20, 2023 7:46:25 GMT
As a fan of that era of REM, I approve
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Post by stixxuk on Oct 20, 2023 8:10:42 GMT
The results are good... but I still don't get who is voting conservative - they still got nearly 30-40% of votes in both.
They're evil, greedy and incompetent. YOU DON'T WANT THEM HAVING INFLUENCE OVER YOUR LIFE, FUCKWITS!
General election time, let's do it. At the very least get them to reassess the idiotic path they've taken since the brexit vote (and prior, but ESPECIALLY since then).
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