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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 7:16:43 GMT
Just watching the news and was reminded that somehow Grant Schapps is our defence secretary.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 11, 2023 9:00:20 GMT
Boggles the mind, doesn't it?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 9:06:57 GMT
Seems like a decent opportunity for Labour to hammer home that these are serious posts they intend to fill with serious people, not just a reward to throw to useful idiots who pull shocked Pikachu faces when they actually have to do something.
This country should never be in a position to have a pandemic hit and have a Matt Hanock in the driving seat or wars break out with Grant 'Fucking' Schapps at the helm.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2023 9:16:23 GMT
Perhaps we could send Shapps to Gaza?
Just a thought.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 11, 2023 9:16:38 GMT
When someone as useless as Chris Grayling* can be a minister in various departments Grant Shapps doesn't look quite so bad or to put it another way...
*Grayling is standing down at the next election not because he's finally realised he's not up to the job but after being successfully treated for prostate cancer he feels it's time for a change.
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Post by otto on Oct 11, 2023 9:19:53 GMT
Perhaps we could send Shapps to Gaza? Just a thought. Haven't they suffered enough? |
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Post by elstoof on Oct 11, 2023 9:26:20 GMT
Grayling will end up on Sunak’s Lords list
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Post by jono62 on Oct 11, 2023 9:29:15 GMT
Perhaps we could send Shapps to Gaza? Just a thought. Mark Francois would sort it. |
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2023 9:32:41 GMT
Perhaps we could send Shapps to Gaza? Just a thought. Haven't they suffered enough? Fair point. |
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2023 9:32:52 GMT
Perhaps we could send Shapps to Gaza? Just a thought. Mark Francois would sort it. He can go too. |
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Post by X201 on Oct 11, 2023 9:48:28 GMT
Just watching the news and was reminded that somehow Grant Schapps is our defence secretary. Did you notice the dig at the BBC?
They've been doing it the last few days in every interview and now, along with the Mail, Express, Torygraph etc are using the attack in Israel as a way to stick the knife in again.
The BBC and other news organisations don't use the term terrorist because it's a subjective judgment. They just report what happened and how, using terms like bomber, attacker, gunman, militant etc
The Conservatives and their buddies in the press have used this as another way to attack the BBC.
They haven't criticised any other news organisation though. Only the BBC.
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2023 9:58:39 GMT
There are Conservatives who value the BBC and its contribution but the current crop of leaders all seemingly hate it because they're quasi fascist bedwetters who can't stand an iota of criticism.
Ironically, Boris was probably one of the best Tories for the BBC.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 10:00:43 GMT
One of the many gross things about the last few days has been people and politicians (who arent people) using the events as a bat to hit someone with.
'I am devastated by the events in Israel... unlike Jeremy CORBYN!'
Get fucked, idiots.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 11, 2023 10:13:33 GMT
Ironically, Boris was probably one of the best Tories for the BBC. No he wasn’t, he was terrible for them. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Oct 11, 2023 10:47:30 GMT
I don't think this will land as well as they think. Esp given the expenses scandal. I'm not excited by Labour going after the well off or having Tarquin re-enroll at Grange Hill. I would be delighted if they made it clear they would take action against shell companies and off-shore accounts of the tax dodging mega rich. The crime and corruption of dodgy corporations blatantly laid out in the Panama and Pandora papers. That they would do something/anything about the laundromat of foreign cash being rinsed through London properties. The stuff that sits in the "too hard" basket. |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 11, 2023 10:58:00 GMT
And probably not eye catching enough to be a vote winner. Or more likely, those very same businesses are piling cash into their much needed coffers.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 11, 2023 11:11:15 GMT
The whole world needs to do something against businesses stockpiling their cash. I don’t think tax will have that impact but the amount some are sat on that could have a massive impact is growing.
Not saying they should give it away but it shouldn’t just sit in the bank.
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Post by elstoof on Oct 11, 2023 11:15:07 GMT
BBC headline claims that Labour will crack down on vapes to cure the “sick man of Europe”, which is a pretty wild policy
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 11:22:01 GMT
And probably not eye catching enough to be a vote winner. I dont know about that. The people who dont care dont care but people who are bothered about inequality would welcome it. It makes me take them a bit more seriously as it shows a commitment to actually do something and is absolutely something I want to hear from them. This country needs an enema and the public school system is as good a place to start as any. But, yes, its an 'as well as' thing not *the* thing. |
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 11, 2023 16:03:16 GMT
Doesn't look like many people care too much about anyone affected by this policy despite what the Telegraph says.
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2023 16:05:42 GMT
Ha. I think people really resent those who send their kids private.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2023 16:12:34 GMT
I think having a gaggle of old Etonian fuckwits preside over this country for the last 13 years has helped.
It’s not just the schools people are judging but the fuckheads they very visibly produce.
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Post by simple on Oct 11, 2023 16:13:32 GMT
With numbers that consistent across the board if Labour don’t adopt it then everyone trying to outflank them on the left will.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2023 16:17:06 GMT
Ha. I think people really resent those who send their kids private. Resent? No. Feel sympathy if fees go up? Also no. That the fee-paying schools have charitable status is fucking ridiculous. They shouldn't have and they absolutely should pay full tax, too. Any other stance is utterly preposterous. |
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Post by Frog on Oct 11, 2023 16:19:26 GMT
The don't know people on yougov need a slap.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 11, 2023 16:48:56 GMT
If you have enough money to pay fees now, posting another 20% is either very easy for them or they’ll go to normal school and have a huge amount of cash available to spend on the next little Boris with tutors/coke etc.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 11, 2023 16:49:15 GMT
Shocking results that show 6% of people will have a lot of sympathy. You would think all 7% that sent their kids to private school would have solidarity!
Or maybe it tells you that there is 1% of private schooled population that don't want the other 6% there...
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Post by zephro on Oct 11, 2023 18:32:03 GMT
I'm not sure the difference between abolishing their charitable status and just applying VAT is all that significant. I think it's their biggest tax break anyhow and you'd end up in a mess of judicial reviews for the schools that do actually do outreach programs.
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Post by Danno on Oct 11, 2023 18:57:40 GMT
I'm not sure the difference between abolishing their charitable status and just applying VAT is all that significant. I think it's their biggest tax break anyhow and you'd end up in a mess of judicial reviews for the schools that do actually do outreach programs. Corporation tax ontl their profits, plus business rates iirc |
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Post by zephro on Oct 11, 2023 19:51:16 GMT
I'm not sure the difference between abolishing their charitable status and just applying VAT is all that significant. I think it's their biggest tax break anyhow and you'd end up in a mess of judicial reviews for the schools that do actually do outreach programs. Corporation tax ontl their profits, plus business rates iirc Though I guess they would declare as non-profit, being owned by a trust to re-invest rather than having share holders. Then stuff like nurseries don't currently pay business rates. So the ultimate effect of those 2 might be quite minimal. |
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