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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 9:28:13 GMT
After all the hoohah, this morning -
1 - Another Tory MP in a safe seat resigns 2 - Johnson stands as Tory candidate 3 - 6 weeks from now Johnson wins and is back in parliament 4 - The 90 day suspension and any other penalties do not occur, as they only apply to the last time round
The above won't happen, but the only reason not is because the current twat in charge despises Johnson. Otherwise, nothing to stop it?
Just to highlight how toothless our democratic systems are against filth like Johnson. Everything he's done, and been rightly found guilty of (a tiny fraction of it), and we are still reliant on the fact he's so repulsive and damaging even his own side would like to see him flushed away.
Otherwise, the UK system of government is dependent on shame. He gave a paid speech yesterday, even while said government were still tied up dealing with the foul spendings that ooze from his every orifice.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Jun 20, 2023 9:38:42 GMT
Can't people struggling with mortgage rates just cancel their Netflix, not upgrade their iPhone, stop buying coffee at Starbucks and Avocado toast at Pret?
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 20, 2023 9:58:15 GMT
Chris Bryant, the normal chair of the Privileges Committee has already stated the suspension is for him and would apply even if he some how got re-elected. Also a factor the Johnson fantasists seem to forget is that MPs who resign their seat drop off the preferred candidates list, he's got no chance of coming back any time soon.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 20, 2023 10:09:22 GMT
He doesnt need to come back. A highly paid career in writing hack columns and delivering speeches for braindead psychopaths and getting his cultists to put their hands in their pockets will pay the bills now. He's on the 'join the board of a petrochemical company' stage of being done with politics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 10:15:54 GMT
Chris Bryant, the normal chair of the Privileges Committee has already stated the suspension is for him and would apply even if he some how got re-elected. Also a factor the Johnson fantasists seem to forget is that MPs who resign their seat drop off the preferred candidates list, he's got no chance of coming back any time soon. Ah good didn't know it carried over. Though the preferred candidates thing is presumably another Tory process they could ignore if they wanted, so the above could happen, just with the suspension. Whether he needs to come back? He wants to be world king forever, can't see even a Mail column scratching that itch. 'Always time for one more innings' - Him, yesterday.
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Post by Zyrr on Jun 20, 2023 12:05:04 GMT
It's not the money that drives him - he's had people and institutions stuffing huge sums of cash in his pockets for next to fuck all his entire adult life. Alexander Johnson relies on the perception that he's a winner against all odds (despite the fact that he's actually just a spoilt privileged cunt who's been handed everything on a silver platter).
Being called out on his lies - and worse, actually suffering consequences for his actions - will eat away at his ego to the point where he'll absolutely *need* to make a triumphant return to politics just so he can reassure himself that he's never been bested by anyone whilst sticking the fingers up to everyone he feels has affronted him.
We can only hope that it never happens and he spends the rest of his disgusting life in a state of bitterness and resentment.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 20, 2023 12:25:38 GMT
We can only hope that it never happens and he spends the rest of his disgusting life in a state of bitterness and resentment. Like the rest of us
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Post by geefe on Jun 21, 2023 7:06:39 GMT
Inflation still at 8.7%, so get your bingo cards ready.
Stop asking for pay increases Blame the strikes Nothing the government can do BofE rate rise Eat less Netflix Don't watch avocado
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 7:17:36 GMT
I kind of hope the BoE goes full pedal to the metal and jumps to 5%.
Purely for selfish reasons that inflation grinds to a halt, so does the economy and we have a chance of an interest rate of less than 5% by the end of next year.
They're not going to do that though.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 21, 2023 7:27:21 GMT
Inflation will drop over time with them doing nothing because of how it’s measured.
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Post by Rich on Jun 21, 2023 7:33:08 GMT
Yes, Sunak's commitment to halving it was effectively as pointless as saying 'I will bring the temperature of the weather down over the next 6 months.' All he really had to do was nothing. And he still fucked it.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 21, 2023 7:39:27 GMT
The whole inflation thing has fallen apart as well. Businesses are not supposed to be making record profits when inflation is really high.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 21, 2023 7:55:19 GMT
Certain businesses, which is never by accident. We had to drop our bonus metrics this year because by the majority of our 2022/23 indicators, we had a bad year. Our cost savings were way off, customer satisfaction was way down because everyone is poor.... by the measures set in place, we were on for virtually nothing.
Thankfully, someone employed a bit of common sense and realised that, thanks to the interest rate rises, we technically had our best year ever as a business and adjusted accordingly. We made money by failing.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 21, 2023 8:09:05 GMT
You are the Tories of Business.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 21, 2023 8:15:12 GMT
As always, there one game in town thats rigged to win and its the one that they use to prop up every 'see? we arent poorer than slovenia!' metric
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Post by TheSaint on Jun 21, 2023 8:28:21 GMT
It's all Zelda's fault:
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 8:28:23 GMT
The whole inflation thing has fallen apart as well. Businesses are not supposed to be making record profits when inflation is really high. Which businesses are making record profits that aren't energy producing?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 21, 2023 8:29:14 GMT
Anything tied to interest rates
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 8:34:26 GMT
Yeah the banks ARE being complete cunts, but their not making record profits..yet.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 8:43:47 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Jun 21, 2023 9:02:02 GMT
My view too.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 9:05:39 GMT
I agree too but I think we're about to hit the tipping point where interest rates will brute force reduce inflation. (and fuck the economy)
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 21, 2023 9:07:49 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Jun 21, 2023 9:09:54 GMT
I agree too but I think we're about to hit the tipping point where interest rates will brute force reduce inflation. (and fuck the economy) I don't think enough mortgages are in scope yet. Give it 2 years, and I agree. The whole thing is a mess. 7-8% is going to see a return to negative equity and lots and lots of people losing their homes.
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Post by Lizard on Jun 21, 2023 9:12:18 GMT
I blame Gordon Brown
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 21, 2023 9:16:27 GMT
You fool take off your blinkers, it was obviously Harold Wilson's fault.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 9:18:02 GMT
I agree too but I think we're about to hit the tipping point where interest rates will brute force reduce inflation. (and fuck the economy) I don't think enough mortgages are in scope yet. Give it 2 years, and I agree. The whole thing is a mess. 7-8% is going to see a return to negative equity and lots and lots of people losing their homes. Not in scope yet but half this battle is expectations. If more people expect to pay a shit load in the future they will reduce consumption and save more. I'm not in scope yet but I've already put off the purchase of a car as a result.
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Post by Youthist on Jun 21, 2023 9:23:15 GMT
Don’t worry lads, all the brexit benefits Farage and Johnson lied about 7 years ago are going to start to bear fruit soon and bail us out. It’s all good.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 21, 2023 9:23:59 GMT
Given most people are struggling just with the essentials (energy bills, food, petrol), I don't think there's lot of slack. Going cold, starving or losing the house ain't great choices. Not an economist though, but I can't help but think the theoreticals don't quite work in practice.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 21, 2023 9:37:12 GMT
Given most people are struggling just with the essentials (energy bills, food, petrol), I don't think there's lot of slack. Going cold, starving or losing the house ain't great choices. Not an economist though, but I can't help but think the theoreticals don't quite work in practice. The BoE SHOULD know if there is slack or not. I may be being optimistic but all this does smack of expectation setting. "You're going to be fucked, stop spending", It's the only logical explanation I have for the BoE. They may just be cranking the handle though, which is fucking stupid.
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