UK Politics Thread

Lol bit of a tangent. Do I think there are SNP voters that don't want independence?

At this stage, I think that's probably very unlikely. However, there are definitely voters who will have leant their vote to the SNP at some stage over the last 14 years, as the only credible left-leaning, anti-austerity party following the collapse of Scottish Labour since Blair's and Brown's respective premierships, that do fall into the 'undecided' category.

Typically, these voters will cite a desire to have a greater understanding of certain key issues, such as on the potential short/long term economic impact(s), on the subject of currency, or on the feasibility of rejoining the EU etc. In other words, the sort of sensible rigorous debate that should have been conducted (on different though similarly important questions) in the lead-up to the EU referendum.

Of course, it seems like there is little time and space for such grown-up, in-depth conversation in our politics at the moment, with the culture wars and their associated disinformation machines in full swing. So, it might end up being emotion that seals it, one way or the other and for better or worse.

Would be ironic if it was the Vote Leave Brexit playbook that ended up delivering the coup de grace to the Union itself.  

Yeah, they wont be able to refuse indefinitely; however, knowing Johnson, I suspect his level of 'give a fuck' is pretty much set at not wanting to be the man cited in the history books as having caused the potential break up of the UK, so I expect every trick in the book will be used to kick it into the long grass for now.

Even more so if Johnson already has in mind when he'll be going, as his aim then will be to absolutely make it a problem for whomever replaces him.

It's possible, but then if it was intentional you are crediting him with a level of intelligence that I think is undeserved. Compared to if he's a moron that gets confused.

Is this your first time hearing about this Cabinet?

This sounds like fun.

according to google 2024 is the next election to get rid of these tory filth, they can do so much damage between now and then.

Also I'm sure the dumb runts will still vote tories then

Some rumours have started that Johnson will call it as early as 2022, to retain power before the inevitable covid enquiry.

Best we could hope for is a hung parliament, which Labour will scupper because they can't work together internally, let alone cross party.

Honestly it feels like Labour don't actually exist atm and the Tories are the only political party that exist. Which is depressing.

Do they have any actual policies beyond not being the tories and vague things like society should be fair etc.?

The longer he stays in charge, the lower his ratings will get.

I genuinely think that people are starting to see through his bullshit. I've noticed a couple of colleagues who voted for him because "he's Boris and he's funny, and there's no way I'm voting for Corbyn" slowly showing signs of realisation that it may not have been the best thing.

The danger is that the party has enough too, and replaces him once they see the polls consistently dropping below Labour. And I can't see him being replaced by anyone who isn't also a cunt.

My mom still keeps going on about Corbyn everytime I mention what a shit show things are even though I keep telling I'm not a fan of Corbyn and he's not the leader of the party. So yeah I can totally buy the Anyone but Corbyn crew, it really has become an effective boogeyman.

Still third for me, after
Cameron (Brexit, Austerity, Lobbying for Greensill, Pig fucker)
Thatcher (pure evil)

Such a surprise. I'm guessing he told them from the comfort of his French cottage.