askew
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Post by askew on Sept 5, 2021 20:18:06 GMT
I have full faith this government will adequately find a solution to reported supply line issues
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 6:38:01 GMT
UK's new brexit minister
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 10:29:29 GMT
The lack of coverage in the press of our future king being revealed, once again, to be just another corrupt spiv for sale to anyone who can keep him in very expensive suits, is entirely unstaggering, sadly. The fourth estate is of course largely run by people who have no doubt paid similar bribes in the past, or hope to in the future.
I hope, when HMQ finally snuffs it, Charles is king just long enough to sit on the coronation throne, suffer a serious medical event in the middle of the ceremony from all the stress, and expire sat in a puddle of his own liquid faeces. On live telly. It would be so regally fitting, and be an event we could associate with all the future generations of the proud house of Windsor to come. The Daily Mail 26 page Coronation Picture Special would certainly be worth keeping, and the event could be woven into future coronations, as chair shitting becomes a key part of the ascension of the new monarch. They will need to listen to new ideas if they want to stay relevant.
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Post by Matt A on Sept 6, 2021 14:30:29 GMT
The Andrew situation is a funny one. None cooperation is kind of an admission of guilt legally. I mean unless he has something to hide why would he not.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 6, 2021 14:33:08 GMT
The Andrew situation is a funny one. None cooperation is kind of an admission of guilt legally. I mean unless he has something to hide why would he not. Because they might find out he's been lying about his inability to sweat when they start questioning him.
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Post by Matt A on Sept 6, 2021 14:34:52 GMT
Everybody thinks or presumes he's guilty but I think that girl has launched civil proceedings against him in the States. Deciding not to represent himself would be funny.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 6, 2021 14:36:52 GMT
I think the condition you're looking for is affluenza.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 7, 2021 11:31:32 GMT
A social care plan that doesn't actually do anything? Never!
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 7, 2021 11:49:51 GMT
Yeah, but he's got a plan
CON +40
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 7, 2021 11:54:50 GMT
Here is a summary of the plans, based on an embargoed briefing from No 10 given earlier.
The NHS is getting £36bn over the next three years “to fund the biggest catch-up programme in the NHS’s history, tackling the Covid backlogs”. Adult social care will be reformed to stop people facing “unpredictable and catastrophic costs”. And health and social care will be brought closer. How it is funded
A new UK-wide 1.25% “health and social care levy” will come in from April 2022, based on national insurance contributions. It will be paid by working adults, including people over the state pension age (unlike normal national insurance, which is not paid by pensioners). Initially from April 2022 national insurance contributions rates will go up by 1.25%. But from April 2023, once tax systems have been updated, the levy will be separated, so that the levy will appear as a separate line on pay slips. At this point working adults above state pension age will start contributing. How much will people pay
The system is progressive, No 10 says. Those who earn more will pay more, A typical basic rate taxpayer earning £24,100 will pay £180 a year, or £3.46 per week. A typical higher rate taxpayer earning £67,100 - in the top 15% of earners - will pay £7.15 a week. Additional rate tax payers (those paying the highest rate) will contribute 20% of the revenue, even though they are just 2% of taxpayers. Higher rate taxpayers - 14% of the total - will pay half the revenue. 6.2 million people earning less than £9,568 will not have to pay. Dividend tax is going up too by 1.25%, to ensure people who receive income through dividends make the same contribution. These people are more likely to be higher earners. Big businesses will pay the most of the extra revenue coming from the increase to employers NICs, with 70% of the money coming from the biggest 1% of employers - those with more than 250 employees. 40% of all businesses (mostly small business) will not have to pay anything extra. No 10 says that, because employers also contribute, raising NICs is fairer than raising income tax. To raise this money from income tax, income tax would have to go up by 2%. A typical basic rate taxpayer would pay around £230 a year, instead of £180. For a higher rate taxpayer, that would be £1,090 instead of £750. International precedents
No 10 says France, Germany and Japan have all increased social security contributions to fund social care. Support for the NHS
The NHS will get an extra £12bn a year for investment in frontline care over the next three years, No 10 says. The new funding is expected to fund an extra 9 million checks, scans and operations. By 2023-24 activity levels in the NHS will be 110% of what was planned. Reforms to adult social care
Currently anyone with assets over £23,250 has to pay their care costs in full. That means around one in seven people pay more than £100,000. From October 2023 the system will change and anyone with assets worth less than £20,000 will have their care costs fully covered by the government. Anyone with assets between £20,000 and £100,000 will be expected to contribute to the cost of care, but will also be eligible for state support covering some of the costs. This support will be means tested. No one will ever have to pay more than £86,000 for care in their lifetime - roughly equivalent to three years of care. The system will be made fairer, so that people who pay for their own care do not have to pay more than state-funded individuals for equivalent care. The NHS and the care system will also be brought closer together. Devolved governments
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will get an extra £2.2bn in health and social care spending as a result of the levy. No 10 says there is “a clear union dividend from this policy”.
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mcmonkeyplc
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Sept 7, 2021 12:34:30 GMT
Don't think anyone care.
Con: + infinity forever
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Post by dwhhhhhhhhhh on Sept 7, 2021 12:49:21 GMT
Why don't we just create a National Care Service, which is funded from taxation (including a wealth tax) and free at the point of use?
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 7, 2021 13:08:06 GMT
If we nationalised Social Care, how would private equity firms be able to exploit and asset strip it?
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Post by Matt A on Sept 7, 2021 16:01:35 GMT
boris is a fookin red!!
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 7, 2021 16:57:08 GMT
If we nationalised Social Care, how would private equity firms be able to exploit and asset strip it? You nationalise the funding of it.
The provider has a contract with the local authority to deliver a service. That is held by PE.
Obviously.
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 7, 2021 17:06:45 GMT
So the massive increase in funding for social cares would go to *checks notes* dividends to shareholders in a private equity firm who have bought the social care provider by loading debt onto it?
Nothing dodgy about that. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 7, 2021 17:11:46 GMT
That's just business, innit?
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Post by TheSaint on Sept 7, 2021 17:13:36 GMT
Unsurprisingly these proposals are very popular with one group:
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 7, 2021 17:15:28 GMT
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Post by crispyxuk on Sept 7, 2021 20:42:19 GMT
This care cap has done fuck all for my mums £88k per year care home bill
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Post by TheSaint on Sept 8, 2021 13:14:59 GMT
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Post by Danno on Sept 8, 2021 13:17:54 GMT
chair shitting becomes a key part of the ascension of the new monarch. They will need to listen to new ideas if they want to stay relevant. They can all join FG too
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Post by Dougs on Sept 8, 2021 13:32:01 GMT
Amazing
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Post by TheSaint on Sept 8, 2021 13:42:44 GMT
Wait till he finds out who got them elected.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 9, 2021 11:41:04 GMT
Oooof. So on the nose.
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Post by Dgzter on Sept 9, 2021 12:51:49 GMT
If anyone just wants a perfect illustration of what is so utterly fucked with politics in the UK atm then have a look at the debate this afternoon on the introduction of vaccine passports in Scotland.
Both Douglas Ross and Anas Sarwar are strongly opposing the SNP on this and are being given ample media spotlight to vocally criticize the Scottish government for bringing the legislation forward. They will vote against the bill tonight.
That's Douglas Ross, leader of the Scottish Tories, who also sits as an MP in WM and will go on the record as voting FOR the introduction of vaccine passports by his own Tory government. And that's Anas Sarwar, the leader of Scottish Labour, railing against a policy that both Keir Starmer, as opposition leader in WM, and Mark Drakeford, as Labour FM in Wales, will publicly support/bring into effect.
Opposition for the sake of opposition. Utter hypocrisy, almost comical stuff. What a time to be alive.
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Post by Matt A on Sept 9, 2021 13:08:09 GMT
It could be a principle. A lot of people in the Asian community apparently don't trust Vaccines. At least I think that's the case.
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Post by nexus6 on Sept 9, 2021 13:08:22 GMT
SNP BAD
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Dgzter
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Post by Dgzter on Sept 9, 2021 13:19:07 GMT
It could be a principle. A lot of people in the Asian community apparently don't trust Vaccines. At least I think that's the case. Surely if that's the case then Sarwar should be stating that clearly and indicating that it is for this reason specifically that he does not support the stance taken by his own party's leader in Westminster nor by the Labour FM in Wales?
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Post by Matt A on Sept 9, 2021 13:20:52 GMT
Yeah I guess so
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