UK Politics Thread

I see there's a fucking "platinum jubilee" planned for 2022.

Hope she pops her fucking clogs *just* before then just to put a dampener on the pomp and circumstance in this time of austerity.





Fuck, I hate the very concept of royalty.

Yep. Watching the press falling over themselves to rewrite Philip as the nations favourite dead grandpa, whilst excusing his will being kept private (no one else atall can keep theirs private, and despite the fact we paid for the contents) to 'preserve the queens dignity' is sickening. And all the time the tax dodging, the general secrecy, using the press as a propaganda tool, and providing sanctuary to a paedophile (is he isn't he who fucking knows, he gets to dodge that too).

The Russians had a simple and cost effective solution to royalty. That would sell some papers.

Yep. Half the nation has been gaslit and continues to lap it up.

Conditions are as big a draw as pay. HGV drivers can earn more here -but aren't willing to as the conditions and support are much worse

Tories expect the people working themselves to death in shitty low paid jobs to be grateful to their lords and masters for having a job at all. It seems to be their fundamental starting point.

All the talk of creating "new jobs for the future" ignores the reality that there will always be low(er) skilled and low paid jobs that need doing. The pandemic has reminded us how dependent our societies are on these people...and how much actual power they have (eg truckers).

Throughout history many economies have and continue to rely on cheap foreign labour to plug the gaps but that involves the immigration of poor people which is obviously a big no go for our government. And yet despite the "pay UK workers more don't rely on the forrins" narrative - it only applies for UK based work. Companies who use China etc as their manufacturers base to benefit from cheap labour? Fair game! So the "pay UK workers more" thing doesn't hold up to scrutiny from a policy position.

Also who the fuck pays for these increased wages? Small and medium sized business are already squeezed to shit. And let's take supermarkets as an example. Lots of haulage involved in the supply chains obviously. "just pay higher wages...".

Well last week Morrisons got bought out by a fucking American private equity firm. Like Asda earlier in the year. So like all things to do with the "1%" the profits from Morrisons will now end up going to the millionaire investors for that shady American equity firm. Will they be keen on their returns diminishing so they can pay the supply chain a fairer and more attractive wage? Highly fucking unlikely.

It really is beginning to feel like the natural end point of free market unregulated capitalism. Cost of living rises means for
many it's no longer financial viable to do low skilled work. Our nationalistic and xenophobic leaders have ruled out foreign labour. They want industry to intervene to make things right rather than government intervention.

It all makes sense when you read what Boris says, literally nothing is the fault of his government. Because his party don't really believe in government just let everyone get on with things and the market will always sort itself out. Same with housing. It's just no longer sustainable and something has to give.

It feels like we're only months away from a "if you don't start doing these hellish awful often seasonal jobs then we will stop all benefits payments"

...Jobs that are already so badly paid that taxpayers have to step in and make up the shortfall through in-work benefits.

In my head I can imagine the inner circle Tory cabal absolutely furious that the plebs are making them look bad by not taking the jobs that many Europeans left behind when we told them to fuck off last year.

Oh, there will almost certainly be a few who are...

Working on the chain gang, going down down

Another way to measure a civilisation is to look at the type of people it selects to lead it.

On that basis, we should be obliterated from existence.

If you recall angry gammons (mostly ones that have retired) where shaking with RAGE few years ago demanding "benefits scum" to pick fruit etc for their benefits. As mentioned thats what boris and his group of turds will do 

I was made unemployed at start of 2019 and it was shitty and you had utter shitcunts there that would try to push you into lowest paid jobs asap. After a month or so I got a decent person to talk to instead of the fucking awful group sessions.

The government needs to improve conditions for lorry drivers, I posted links about how ex lorry driver would not even do it for £80k a year as its horrible services unlike the EU which improved theirs in various parts of the EU. Left wing types are still banging on about £15 p/h min. wage, they need to understand thats not really possible as roughly about £30k a year iirc

Capitalism hasn't changed (yet) even if the 'super-structure' around it is evolving rapidly.

You need cheap wage-slavery to populate working class grunt jobs. A sub-class of unemployed to keep the working class terrified and also thinking their life is ontologically fine. A middle class (admittedly obfuscated by a cultural/intellectual malaise) that understand they are doing ok and believe they deserve it. Then you get a class above, that doesn't have a codified title, let's call them the 'owners' that reap from everyone. The billionaires. The millionaires (they used to be called the bourgeoisie but it's not really that anymore). The people whose wealth is now generated by all the previous 'classes'. And they also think they earned it.

Of course there is also the anachronistic aristos sitting pretty like mold on top of a trifle.

There is no such thing as a self-made millionaire. Hello Bezos, you started Amazon then it was made a success by hundreds of thousands of people who received less reward than their contribution was worth to you.

Sorry guys, I saw a Boris Johnson headline about his speech coming up at his Tory conference and it pissed me off a bit. He hasnt even made the speech at the time of posting. A couple of people posted about Britain being gaslit earlier, couldn't agree more.

Amazing.

Gobsmacked that this shower are plumbing ever lower depths

Oh absolutely, it blows my mind that we’re not just allowing them to get away these things but actually cheering them on