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Post by Jambowayoh on May 24, 2022 13:35:24 GMT
What exactly is Boris doing for Ukraine? I mean, he went and glad handed Zelensky, made some vague promises about military supplies which one imagines are dependent on which of his mates/tory donors can get their hands on some cheap weapons… what else? The way his supporters talk, you’d think he was manfully fighting off hordes of Red Army elites every day… My mum says "he's showing leadership with Ukraine, more than what that other guy would do." That other guy is Starmer, for reference. When I asked about the lack of Ukrainian refugees coming into the UK, she brushed it off as the government needing to check thoroughly.
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Post by TheSaint on May 24, 2022 13:40:50 GMT
By all accounts, we did give them a lot of very powerful anti-ship and anti-tank weaponry which has made a difference.
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Post by minimatt on May 24, 2022 13:43:11 GMT
Sounds like tomorrow he'll be rolling out the exact same insincere I'm sorry if you were offended apology. So guessing tomorrow's the big Sue Gray Day
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2022 13:54:43 GMT
By all accounts, we did give them a lot of very powerful anti-ship and anti-tank weaponry which has made a difference. We definitely gave them plenty of NLAWs, but are we to believe that this has *only* happened because of Boris?
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Post by Danno on May 24, 2022 13:55:18 GMT
Sounds like tomorrow he'll be rolling out the exact same insincere I'm sorry if you were offended apology. So guessing tomorrow's the big Sue Gray Day Tomorrow afternoon, you can set your watch by it. There's no way he's letting it out before PMQs
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 24, 2022 14:02:58 GMT
By all accounts, we did give them a lot of very powerful anti-ship and anti-tank weaponry which has made a difference. We definitely gave them plenty of NLAWs, but are we to believe that this has *only* happened because of Boris? The arms industry is one of few things we have left. Im sure his investors would have something to say if we didnt started handing them out.
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2022 14:15:15 GMT
We definitely gave them plenty of NLAWs, but are we to believe that this has *only* happened because of Boris? The arms industry is one of few things we have left. Im sure his investors would have something to say if we didnt started handing them out. Oh, agreed. However, I rather suspect this would have happened whomever was in charge and so isn’t really a Boris = Churchill event as his ardents would have us believe, is all.
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Post by Vandelay on May 24, 2022 14:45:08 GMT
Personally I'm working from home *and* I'm quite lazy, but I think I'm actually the exception to the general rule. A while back, I read about a study done by a Chinese company on WFH and productivity. They found that most people who WFH actually are a bit less productive. However, those that are more productive get so much more done that it works out as a big benefit. As a fellow lazy bastard, I'm okay with this.
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Post by dmukgr on May 24, 2022 14:46:05 GMT
Of course it isn't but my mum and Jambo's mum believe it - as do loads of others. Sickeningly, they all see Starmer as someone they don't like, usually then mentioning how they hated Corbyn so Starmer is just guilty by association.
/In reply to dogbot
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 24, 2022 14:46:49 GMT
Even if I'm in the office it's not like I'd do much more.
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Post by geefe on May 24, 2022 14:49:54 GMT
Yeah. My workload is such that if I
A) had an office to go to B) went to it
Wouldn't get that much more done, anyway. I find I am least productive when someone calls me for a "quick catch up" or query and it spirals into a 20-30 minute discussion.
In short - WFH is only about as "lazy" as your workload.
NB - a part of me does wonder if there's a lot of the older generation fucked off that there's just a massive shift towards employee satisfaction and power that they were never a part of. So many jobs will be automated by 2040/50 and the rest of us will have much greater power over employers (in theory).
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2022 15:01:12 GMT
I went to the office today.
Because I'm not officially based there, my 90 minutes of travelling time counts as part of my working day and as such, I'm finished.
All our infrastructure etc is cloud based, there's no need for me to be in the office anyway mostly.
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Post by technoish on May 24, 2022 16:03:03 GMT
If I am less productive WFH it's offset by the longer hours I work, as I just swallow up the commute in there.
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Post by X201 on May 24, 2022 16:06:41 GMT
I worked from home full time, long before Covid. After they were forced to do it, I actually had some work colleagues apologise to me for the jokes about doing nothing and sitting there in my pyjamas all day, etc.
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Post by clemfandango on May 24, 2022 16:37:12 GMT
My daily mail reading boss (owner of company) has just told me that I have to get all wfh staff back in the office full time in two weeks (including myself). I’ve had everybody doing 3 days in office and 2 at home for about a year. We have not had any issues, productivity is very good, we are winning new business and everybody likes it. Also all staff cross over with each other.
He’s basically said that teamwork will improve, communication will improve and there is no no such thing as hybrid working in employment law now. Of course I am lucky if I see him once a week in the office, he dictates everything from his iPhone via email.
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Post by clemfandango on May 24, 2022 17:04:44 GMT
I think what really pisses me off is the cake and eat it mentality of my boss. He knows everybody can work from home and all them log on at anti social times to push stuff through. They will probably keep on doing that as it benefits them, but it actually benefits the business and my boss more.
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Post by clemfandango on May 24, 2022 17:05:21 GMT
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Post by Danno on May 24, 2022 17:16:12 GMT
I just spent 5 seconds waiting for a tweet to load and another 5 trying to clean that full stop off of my screen
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Post by clemfandango on May 24, 2022 17:51:52 GMT
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Post by Danno on May 24, 2022 17:59:31 GMT
Panorama about to start
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Post by dogbot on May 24, 2022 18:15:21 GMT
Of course it isn't but my mum and Jambo's mum believe it - as do loads of others. Sickeningly, they all see Starmer as someone they don't like, usually then mentioning how they hated Corbyn so Starmer is just guilty by association. /In reply to dogbot In general, it saves people having to have an actual point of rebuttal. No disrespect intended to anyone in particular. Whether it's true or not, "Starmer is rubbish" shouldn't be a justification for all the crap Boris has done, but this is what modern politics has come to. Deflect, move on.
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Post by dam on May 24, 2022 18:33:29 GMT
Of course it isn't but my mum and Jambo's mum believe it - as do loads of others. Sickeningly, they all see Starmer as someone they don't like, usually then mentioning how they hated Corbyn so Starmer is just guilty by association. /In reply to dogbot In general, it saves people having to have an actual point of rebuttal. No disrespect intended to anyone in particular. Whether it's true or not, "Starmer is rubbish" shouldn't be a justification for all the crap Boris has done, but this is what modern politics has come to. Deflect, move on. My Dad is like this, but as we are in Scotland, it's Nicola Sturgeon he's groomed to hate. When he starts, I just ask him to name one policy he doesn't like. Never has an answer (none based in reality anyway).
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Post by clemfandango on May 24, 2022 18:57:30 GMT
I can imagine Nicola is a lot easier sell, her whole reason for being is to get scottish independence. If you don’t want that, you’ll dislike her. Though If I was scottish I would vote for her
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Post by Danno on May 24, 2022 19:04:53 GMT
It's shit. But I really don't like Kuennsburg.
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Post by Whizzo on May 24, 2022 19:45:41 GMT
Panorama was dreadful, some interesting insider interviews and everything else pretty much bollocks, her pro-Johnson biases fully on show.
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Post by X201 on May 24, 2022 20:00:25 GMT
RMT union votes for a national rail strike www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61573206Strike incoming The key part will be if the signallers decide to strike Edit: Signallers have voted for strike action. That stops anything running.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 24, 2022 20:48:40 GMT
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Post by Vandelay on May 24, 2022 21:47:32 GMT
Panorama was dreadful, some interesting insider interviews and everything else pretty much bollocks, her pro-Johnson biases fully on show. Seriously? I didn't watch it, but glanced at a couple of bits from The Guardian blog (likely quite selective) and seemed pretty damning. Pity, I was thinking maybe she had finally given up her long application for a post at Johnson's Downing Street.
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Post by Danno on May 24, 2022 21:59:48 GMT
Panorama was dreadful, some interesting insider interviews and everything else pretty much bollocks, her pro-Johnson biases fully on show. Seriously? I didn't watch it, but glanced at a couple of bits from The Guardian blog (likely quite selective) and seemed pretty damning. Pity, I was thinking maybe she had finally given up her long application for a post at Johnson's Downing Street. The Guardian bites are the only bits worth bothering with really, Laura went and Laura'd because she hates hates to lose a source. She's a rotten interviewer to boot. 'Nod along, nod along'
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Post by Dougs on May 25, 2022 5:09:43 GMT
The masses don't watch Panorama anyway, even if it had been a proper hit job, I don't think it would have made a difference to those who support him. Until Dacre and Murdoch turn, the needle won't move.
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