UK Politics Thread

Yeah, huge difference between someone delivering parcels for Amazon with a van or car using your standard driving license to delivering fuel in a hgv tanker. What the fuck?

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Calling them scum does both give the Tories an excuse to use it as a distraction, and allow them to do the same in return, but at this stage what difference does it make. Tory party conference this weekend, Johnson will continue to plot the next election and largely ignore and/or make a joke of all the inconvenient things that might be occurring, because he can, so why not call them scum at this stage, doesn't matter either way. Also, they are scum.

I hadn't seen the full quote until last night and had that exact thought. The fixation of scum is bizarre, when surely the other terms she uses were much worse.

Just reinforces my view that there is an attempt to make her look common, as well as to smear her as much as they can now to destroy her chances of leadership (or start the attacks before that happens).

As for whether she should actually be leader, my preference would be for Starmer to get his act together and actually do something. The only decisive decesions he seems to be making just serve to reinforce the idea that Labour care more about internal battles than external, even if I may agree in part with some of those choices.

Having said that, if Rayner is going to make a move then I hope she does it sooner rather than later. We can't wait until Labour have another bad election and put up with 5 more years of this lot, before Labour gets its act together. Magical grandpa in socialist wonderland didn't work, clinical and forensic isn't sticking, so maybe someone who is willing to go on the offensive a bit more might be what we need.

Heard there was fuel in stock local to me so I've just taken all my lockdown loo rolls to the esso and soaked them in petrol so I can wring them out later!

They aren't going to split off because who are they going to blame when they don't get anywhere. For them they'll constantly snipe and cause infighting all the while blaming other people with no self awareness that people rejected Corbyn. Arseholes, the lot of them.

One person's scum is another's clotted cream.

The problem is, Starmer seems to be a fundamentally decent but dull man, which means that he belongs in the Lib Dems where the general population can ignore him. If he'd managed to cultivate some kind of political persona, then people might have started paying more attention.

I think you're right. All this week accomplish is giving the Tories the win in that constituency.

Whether or not they beat Blairite Labour depends on the constituency, but across the nation I reckon they'd be on the same level as the Lib Dems, at best.

I'm living in a country where there is effectively only one party that has any chance of winning.
They've screwed a lot of things up over the past 2 years and almost everyone thinks they're crap... but it doesn't matter as there's no viable alternative so everyone knows they'll win the next election anyway.

It seems worryingly like the UK is sleepwalking / has sleepwalked into the same situation.

If and when Scotland becomes independent, there seems to be no chance of Labor ever winning a majority again. Even if it weren't for all the infighting and them seemingly shooting themselves in the foot at every possible opportunity.

Well a fair few of our vans won't have fuel to go out tomorrow by the looks of it unless a solution suddenly pops up overnight. No fuel at the station near our depot and the area I work in has been cleaned out. Think I just about have enough to get back.

You’re supposed to put diesel in your unleaded, right? Its all liquid?

www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/27/petrol-station-chaos-worsened-by-motorists-filling-up-with-wrong-fuel

I can't find 4* anywhere

Didn't know George Orwell was an Etonian.