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Post by Whizzo on Nov 25, 2024 13:31:23 GMT
He's definitely voting for the wrong parties if he wants that. I assume he's happy that rail nationalisation is pretty much locked in now?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 25, 2024 13:32:34 GMT
A combination of both the public being thick, while being bombarded with right wing propaganda from even owners of social media companies will ensure the Tories or a Tory/Reform get in next time. Weirdly, I think if you do actually break it down to people's core beliefs alot of the public are fairly liberal or left leaning, but they've been brainwashed to a frightening degree. A 60+ year old here in the office who openly voted Reform in the last election wants change apparently. He wants high or even double taxes to pay for better services and social care, nationalised utilities, fair pay accross the board in line with the public sector and the ability to retrain later in life being a realistic option. The party to provide this is the Tories in his opinion. The only reason they didn't is because of immigrants in hotels. Did you take him to A&E to get his head injury looked at?
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Post by cubby on Nov 25, 2024 13:41:24 GMT
Reform are always banging on about taxes being too low tbf.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 25, 2024 13:43:05 GMT
Reform are always banging on about taxes being too low tbf. And the Tories!
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 25, 2024 14:09:51 GMT
Meanwhile..
South West Water. one of the worst polluters, was handed £453million by the government over the last decade. The subsidy was supposed to reduce customers’ bills - but guess what? South West still has the second highest bills in the country. And while the Tory government was underwriting South West, its shareholders received £1.5billion in dividends.
Shockingly the Daily Mail and Telegraph aren't over concerned re. this.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 25, 2024 14:19:12 GMT
I mean if you really think about it, the last 14 years were great and not at all an omnishambles. I don't even remember people talking about schools falling apart with the danger of walls/ceilings collapsing on students, a PM who lasted less than the shelf life of a head of iceberg lettuce and almost destroyed the country, a party going through 6 Leaders in 14 years, austerity as an ideological matter rather than an economical one, piles and piles of money being given to government mates during the pandemic who didn't actually do anything and essentially commited fraud, pensioners dying in their homes due to rising energy bills, the NHS being torn apart over time, a massive backlog of immigration/asylum applications and Britian leaving the EU, absoultely hobbling itself because we were great by ourselves in the 70s when brown people knew their place and the only language spoken was ENGLISH. Oh and a PM who routinely lied, broke his own laws and was totally fine with the bodies of old people piling up on the streets. Yeah those things never happend and Labour have ruined everything! Yeah, but even if those things that definitely didn't happen did happen, Labour are making farmers pay half the amount of inheritance tax as every other business, making businesses pay a whopping 1.2% more tax on NI, denying pensioners some spending money on their holiday by removing the winter fuel allowance and making parents that HAVE to send their kid to private school pay VAT. Which is really the worse crime against the average person?
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Post by rftp on Nov 25, 2024 14:27:31 GMT
Yes, but Nigel and Jeremy said that it is all Kier Starmer and the immigrants fault for making everything woke, and they're men of the people, innit. So I'm going to vote to cut my own face into pieces.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 25, 2024 14:28:00 GMT
That we never got our bendy bananas back.
That's the real crime.
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Post by simple on Nov 25, 2024 14:49:24 GMT
Meanwhile.. South West Water. one of the worst polluters, was handed £453million by the government over the last decade. The subsidy was supposed to reduce customers’ bills - but guess what? South West still has the second highest bills in the country. And while the Tory government was underwriting South West, its shareholders received £1.5billion in dividends. Shockingly the Daily Mail and Telegraph aren't over concerned re. this. This kind of thing should be genuinely criminal (also see, the trains).
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