UK Politics Thread

Pretty much, I also have no confidence that we won't have populist dickheads in power within 5 years.

I find it really hard to not have a bleak outlook.

They sort of are doing that, but only in general terms and not going into specifics. More "we have to fix the problems left over by last government" and "our public services need more money", rather than "this will pay for 10,000 new police officers" or "this will fix 75% of the pot holes on our roads". And I'm not sure even if they were giving specifics the message would get through, as media is so dominated by the right-wing, whilst the left-wing media isn't too thrilled with Starmer and his government either.

As I think I said in the US thread, the UK government's approval ratings just seem to have transferred over from one team to the other team, with barely an acknowledgement of there being a transition. There is a long way to go and that narrative can be changed if the everyday person starts seeing real change. I expect when we start seeing things like breakfast clubs for primary school kids (something that has supposedly made massive difference in London), then people might start warming to them.

It is really hard to break the negativity though and those 4-5 years before another election will go by quicker than I expect they anticipate. Plus there are Welsh and Scottish elections in less than 2 years, along with local elections along the way, all of which can really embed a narrative of a failing government.

I think specifics would have a better chance of getting through, though maybe they'll just have to resort to the bus method.

Not really. All of these fact checking, verify services clearly mean fuck all. People just believe what they want to believe. 

Fuck them.

Tax experts have looked into the detail though, and from memory it will affect less than 500 farms a year, most likely about 120.