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Post by technoish on Oct 30, 2024 16:03:00 GMT
They could put proper taxes on expensive petrol cars. A big SUV in France has like 50k euros tax on it! UK tax would be 1.5k pounds.
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Post by imamazed on Oct 30, 2024 16:11:35 GMT
Yes to that as well please
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Post by simple on Oct 30, 2024 16:14:36 GMT
Tory papers and BBC were putting in overtime with the doom and gloom. Makes you wonder why they bothered if it's not going to actually be that bad. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I think most people will notice that they've been fed utter bollocks for the last week. I did wonder if Labour might have been briefing all the painful stuff in advance to take the sting out of it when the actual Budget happened and was broadly fine. It was just so unrelentingly miserable. Neutralise any gotcha questions and stay in control of the important headlines today and tomorrow. |
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Post by TheSaint on Oct 30, 2024 16:29:33 GMT
The fuel duty freezes are crazy, especially when train fares increase above inflation.
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Post by askew on Oct 30, 2024 16:44:14 GMT
Sigh, I wish a government would have the balls to abolish the fuel duty freeze. Just think of the extra VAT they would raise as it's double taxed. Think of the War On Motorists. |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 30, 2024 17:10:27 GMT
The fuel duty freezes are crazy, especially when train fares increase above inflation. Pure politics innit. I suspect they'll go up once there's evidence of sustained growth. |
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Post by technoish on Oct 30, 2024 19:00:42 GMT
According the the guardian's calculator our household will pay like £5.50 more in tax. How awful! Down with the government.  But I haven't looked at out what our NICs bill will increase by for the nanny/housekeeper. |
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 30, 2024 19:09:10 GMT
I’m going to wind up around 7 quid worse off purely because of my wine intake.
Awks.
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Post by Kay on Oct 30, 2024 19:10:00 GMT
I know it's very much first world problems, but the stamp duty increase has fucked us over a bit. Literally on the verge of finally getting the memorandum of sale on a house purchase - on an offer that was accepted in July - and by my calculations it will now cost an extra £12k. Gah.
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Post by technoish on Oct 30, 2024 19:14:46 GMT
I know it's very much first world problems, but the stamp duty increase has fucked us over a bit. Literally on the verge of finally getting the memorandum of sale on a house purchase - on an offer that was accepted in July - and by my calculations it will now cost an extra £12k. Gah. Doesn't the threshold going back down only start in April 2025? Unless you mean the duty on second homes. |
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Post by Kay on Oct 30, 2024 19:29:08 GMT
No it's the one for second homes, which kicks in tomorrow - currently living in my wife's flat, which she's been trying to sell for ages but can't due to cladding issues with the building.
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Post by rftp on Oct 30, 2024 20:25:05 GMT
I will be 76p better off, apparently.
Viva Labour.
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Post by cubby on Oct 30, 2024 20:44:14 GMT
0p change, bloody starmer!
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 30, 2024 20:56:41 GMT
Daily Mail calculator says £400 worse, another one says £19 better.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 30, 2024 21:06:50 GMT
Probably a Woke calculator.
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Post by simple on Oct 30, 2024 21:15:28 GMT
That £400 is going straight into an asylum seeker’s PS5 Pro fund no doubt
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Post by X201 on Oct 30, 2024 22:10:50 GMT
0p change, bloody starmer! Same here |
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Post by richardiox on Oct 30, 2024 22:11:22 GMT
That £400 is going straight into an asylum seeker’s PS5 Pro fund no doubt I was under the impression they all get issued them as they enter the UK or they swim ashore from a boat. PS5 Pro, LG OLED, latest iPhone and a nice flat in Kensington. Meanwhile my neighbors mate apparently got arrested and then locked up just for having some Union Jack boxer shorts - that he *wasn't even wearing* (too tight apparently). This Country. |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 30, 2024 22:16:32 GMT
£6 better off. Get in. That pint will be delicious
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Post by peekconfusion on Oct 30, 2024 22:21:59 GMT
£6 better off. Get in. That pint will be delicious What will you do with the extra penny? |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 30, 2024 22:27:17 GMT
Not much. £6.49 in my local now I guess.
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Post by minimatt on Oct 30, 2024 23:03:01 GMT
suprised they continued the fuel duty freeze
i'm not sure how to make vehicle taxation progressive really. tax on emissions and you're taxing the poor, as old - cheap - vehicles in any given category are more polluting* and the poorer you are the older your car. tax on miles driven and you penalise the care worker who drives around the county getting old folks out of bed and reward the high payed tech consultant who works from home three days a week. i'd love to tax suvs more, but then i drive one because a nissan leaf can't tow 1.6 tons out a field
* discounting input construction costs - wheras in general the most environmentally friendly vehicle is the one you already own
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 31, 2024 1:27:29 GMT
If it's done as a package of taxes, then some of those things don't matter though.
Tax emissions, and then offset it by some other tax that affects poor people.
Tax miles driven, but give care workers and other essential employees reduced income tax or something.
Tax SUVs, but give a discount if they can prove they've ever driven one in a field.
Etc..
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Post by X201 on Oct 31, 2024 4:37:02 GMT
It’s OK everyone, Yasmin is 50% happy with the budget www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv8y68e25o(In fact most of them are. It’s as if the doom and gloom across all the media beforehand was exaggerating things) |
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Post by X201 on Oct 31, 2024 8:20:39 GMT
Also, it's puzzled me how many business owners have been happy to rage on radio and TV that the Minimum Wage increase has cost them half a million, a million etc
They do realise that they're telling the world that they're the kind of business that pays the bare minimum and only gives employees a pay rise when the Govt. forces them to, don't they?
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Post by askew on Oct 31, 2024 8:22:49 GMT
£0.00 better/worse off
Damn my lack of pint/wine/spirit purchasing
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 31, 2024 8:34:10 GMT
We are never going to get anywhere in this country until we get over our peasant mentality. Wheeling out Dynorod Stewart to shit on workers rights and complain about how tough millionaires have it from his mansion in Spain or goading small business owners into complaining how tough it is to pay people a fair wage rather than ‘yeah, it will be tough but it would be easier if the wealth hoarders lowered my rent and the energy companies weren’t sending dividends abroad to foreign shareholders’.
It properly winds me up. Heaven forbid we give working people more money in their pockets and make rich people get richer slightly slower. Fuck sake, this country, I swear to god.
And the video of that moron from the BBC having her mind blown when someone says that billionaires exist. Yes, Emma, if a village had a tree that makes 100 apples, it’s better for the village that one person doesn’t have 99 and the rest share one.
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Post by rftp on Oct 31, 2024 8:45:19 GMT
Listening to Five Live this morning and from the reactions of the rich folks with their noses in the troughs, they've got it right.
Also, fuck you Clarkson, you fat cunt.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 31, 2024 8:48:02 GMT
Same with our temporarily embarrassed millionaire class who have strong opinions on the inheritance tax they are never going to get near that they keep interviewing.
Absolute serfdom.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 31, 2024 9:14:49 GMT
It’s OK everyone, Yasmin is 50% happy with the budget www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv8y68e25o(In fact most of them are. It’s as if the doom and gloom across all the media beforehand was exaggerating things) Having some real facepalm moments when there is 29 year old earning £30k worrying about inheritance tax for his kids, as well as the pensioner who is only just over the threshold for pension credit worrying about it too. The right wing media have really successfully convinced people that they are part of the 4% that pay inheritance tax. |
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