Vandelay
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 9, 2024 8:52:45 GMT
Sticking windmills on airplanes is probably not going to happen. It is the future I want to live in though. It would lead to some cool sci-fi designs! But, sure, we do need a mixture of technologies. Although there might be some climate activists that say we should all just stop flying, we aren't all going to start holidaying in Bognor or taking 2 months off every year so we can travel by boat. I'm sure some investment in carbon capture isn't the dumbest idea and the actual money isn't actually that crazy when you consider the period it covers. It is more of a disappointment that this is what they lead with. Tucked into a package of various investments (as I'm sure it actually is) is fine. It would have been nice if they had of talked about the investment in the new renewable technologies rather than just the one that is about maintaining the old way of doing things.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 9, 2024 8:55:35 GMT
Putting in into peat bogs seems like a decent option.
In fairness, the UK has done pretty well in switching from things like Coal to Renewables. (Coal: 0%. Renewables ~50%)
Though it'd have been easier without the Ukraine situation pushing up gas prices, and the tories selling off all the gas reserves. Partly just because being greener can also be more expensive, at least in the short term.
Apparently carbon capture on emission can reduce CO2 emissions from things like coal/gas power by ~90%, but also pushes up generation costs by ~60%.
Which is a harder sell when UK energy prices have already risen so much.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Oct 9, 2024 9:24:46 GMT
I think Carbon Capture is more designed to tackle industry carbon output. Domestic supply of electricity for households will pretty much take care of it self - the grid used 50% renewable energy last year and with the lift on the ban of offshore wind, wind farms and solar will scale up pretty quickly to cover most of the other 50 %. The tech and viable business plans are already there, i don’t think it would need that much more investment. Just encouragement to get it over the line.
However, as a country we still want to have industry, like making cars for example and be less reliant on importing materials from the likes of china. We need to massively expand our grid for the rise of electric vehicles but also expand and build facilities to process and produce the materials need for those things as well other industries. Basically we want to be self reliant and sustainable and not be at the whims of Russia and China. Those things however output a lot of carbon and that has to go somewhere. I don’t know whether carbon capture is the answer but the move for it isn’t really about domestic supply of electricity it’s accommodating for industry. An uncomfortable truth is that the things we use every day practically use most of the periodic table, it uses metals, oils and plastics, and uses energy to put together resulting in a lot of carbon. It has to go somewhere.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 9, 2024 9:55:55 GMT
I'm immediately suspicious of it because my dad has been blathering on about it which usually means a Russian has been paid to push it in the daily mail comments section.
Being from t'north, he's always had a rage boner that we closed the pits down too early and he is now absolutely obsessed with re-opening them in conjunction with carbon capture tech.
'If we can't get British people to pick fruit, how the fuck are you going to get them back down the mines, genius?'
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