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Post by simple on Jul 24, 2024 11:52:47 GMT
Luckily for Liz Truss I don’t think anyone was bothered that she was a woman in power. We judge her entirely on the merits of her record.
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Post by brokenkey on Jul 24, 2024 12:19:04 GMT
At the start of the clip he calls her Prime Minister, following the US convention that once President, always President.
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Post by simple on Jul 24, 2024 12:32:23 GMT
I’m pretty sure that’s a Blair-Bush legacy but don’t think everyone gets the same treatment.
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Post by cubby on Jul 24, 2024 12:33:37 GMT
It's fox news so they live in their own reality anyway.
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Post by rawshark on Jul 24, 2024 12:40:11 GMT
Any sane broadcaster would be inviting her in, pointing at her, and saying “this is what happens when you let an insane person be in charge of a country”.
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Post by Vandelay on Jul 24, 2024 12:53:53 GMT
I particularly liked the bit when she said that Harris is only the nominee because Biden was forced out.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 24, 2024 12:55:21 GMT
Truss saying Harris is incompetent for the top job, please, my sides. And what does the lettuce think? It's probably more qualified to comment anyway... |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jul 24, 2024 12:55:41 GMT
Any sane broadcaster would be inviting her in, pointing at her, and saying “this is what happens when you let an insane person be in charge of a country”. Knowing all involved, I assume they pointed at her and said "See! This is what happens when you let a woman run the country!" and Truss sat there nodding with a slightly confused look on her face. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 24, 2024 13:08:47 GMT
I’m pretty sure that’s a Blair-Bush legacy but don’t think everyone gets the same treatment. /gestures broadly at Obama |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jul 24, 2024 13:16:58 GMT
Truss knows all about incompetency and unsuitability.
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Post by rawshark on Jul 24, 2024 14:10:40 GMT
Any sane broadcaster would be inviting her in, pointing at her, and saying “this is what happens when you let an insane person be in charge of a country”. Knowing all involved, I assume they pointed at her and said "See! This is what happens when you let a woman run the country!" and Truss sat there nodding with a slightly confused look on her face. I don't even think she knows what confusion is. She just has that seven-mile stare and pork market grin permanently etched onto her clueless face, these days. She's probably still wondering when her book is going to hit shelves, blissfully unaware that it came out weeks ago and didn't even come close to registering on the best-sellers lists. |
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Post by mothercruncher on Jul 24, 2024 18:45:12 GMT
Actually had a twat twatting say, in response to all the shit they’ve pulled over 14 years, “yes, but when Labour lost they actually left a note saying they’d spent all the money..”., like a twat.
Some people are twats, but also Alastair Darling (I think it was) was a twat for handing them the gift that keeps on giving all that time ago.
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Post by X201 on Jul 24, 2024 18:51:57 GMT
Alaistair Darling wasn’t responsible for the note.
It was some lesser minister.
Edit: Liam Byrne
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Jul 24, 2024 19:17:30 GMT
Reginald Maudling left a similar note for the incoming Labour government in 1964.
The note isn't at fault. What is at fault is the economic illiteracy of the UK population and the Tories' willingness to weaponize it, to create a narrative whereby they gained public consent to take economically illiterate actions*
*there was a 2010 paper, published by 2 Harvard Professors which backed austerity, which was later debunked by a PHD student, reviewing it as part of his thesis. So much for peer review.
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Post by technoish on Jul 24, 2024 19:40:53 GMT
And I think Churchill started it. It's a long tradition...
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Post by X201 on Jul 24, 2024 19:44:55 GMT
*there was a 2010 paper, published by 2 Harvard Professors which backed austerity, which was later debunked by a PHD student, reviewing it as part of his thesis. So much for peer review. Everyone really needs to spare 15 minutes to listen to the episode below. Austerity was supported by a basic spreadsheet error and a monumentally stupid assumption about the data that resulted in an outlier that skewed the whole dataset. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r1s4 |
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Post by zephro on Jul 24, 2024 20:15:15 GMT
*there was a 2010 paper, published by 2 Harvard Professors which backed austerity, which was later debunked by a PHD student, reviewing it as part of his thesis. So much for peer review. Everyone really needs to spare 15 minutes to listen to the episode below. Austerity was supported by a basic spreadsheet error and a monumentally stupid assumption about the data that resulted in an outlier that skewed the whole dataset. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r1s4There's an even simpler more explicible reason. George Osborne is an evil, economically illiterate, twat. Seems more likely than a spreadsheet error but they wanted to be nice really. |
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Post by Danno on Jul 24, 2024 20:15:20 GMT
*there was a 2010 paper, published by 2 Harvard Professors which backed austerity, which was later debunked by a PHD student, reviewing it as part of his thesis. So much for peer review. Everyone really needs to spare 15 minutes to listen to the episode below. Austerity was supported by a basic spreadsheet error and a monumentally CYNICAL assumption about the data that resulted in an outlier that skewed the whole dataset. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r1s4Minor amendment |
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Post by cubby on Jul 24, 2024 20:15:58 GMT
It wasn't an accident, the tories used it as an excuse for what they were going to do anyway, just like how they used that joke letter as justification for blaming Labour for 14 years straight.
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Post by X201 on Jul 24, 2024 20:35:57 GMT
The data and the error in the paper were real.
The main problem was that the likes of Osborne jumped on it as a way to validate their ideological wet dreams
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Post by elstoof on Jul 25, 2024 5:24:27 GMT
Tugendhat proving he’s a true tory by announcing he’d be willing to leave the ECHR as long as he got to be leader of the party
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Post by X201 on Jul 25, 2024 5:38:10 GMT
Tugenhat in the ring
/thank you
/here all week
/try the veal
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Post by Dougs on Jul 25, 2024 13:34:11 GMT
Reality bites. An irrelevance in Parliament.
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Post by robthehermit on Jul 25, 2024 14:03:08 GMT
Everybody other than Labour is an irrelevance in parliament. The tories will do nothing of any note until they get a new leader, the lib dems are hardly going to be holding anyone to account with their 2 questions a week and the less said about everyone else the better.
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 25, 2024 14:31:15 GMT
The government party doesn't get to dominate the select committees and that's where a lot of work happens in Parliament, it's not all votes and debates in the House.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 25, 2024 14:45:57 GMT
That's exactly what it does do though - select committees and the like have representation that matches the Commons. So the Government always has a majority. It doesn't mean they don't scrutinise properly but does make any votes somewhat redundant (as in the commons really...)
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 25, 2024 14:55:34 GMT
I would hope they'll still hold the government to account, even the Tories managed to do that most of the time. Having said that whoever put Gullis on the select committee he was on must have done it for a laugh, he was sodding useless.
Also useless is Tom Tugendhat (I'll leave the ECHR he said in his leadership bid last night after saying it was a stupid idea last year), I'm not sure he should have changed this.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 25, 2024 14:58:51 GMT
I think MPs put each other forward as they get a nice little bump in pay for each one they do. You scratch mine and all that.
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Post by cubby on Jul 25, 2024 14:59:24 GMT
Turdendhat
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 26, 2024 11:51:14 GMT
Tom, mate, seriously, this shows that everyone pretty much hates the Tories, including you.
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