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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 25, 2024 14:03:45 GMT
You also don't have to rebuild your houses every 30 years. Imagine if you had to do that as well...
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Post by Duffking on Mar 25, 2024 14:05:50 GMT
Isn't this because people in the UK like old houses and don't really like new ones?
Ask most people to pick between the terraced Edwardian house and the brand new Barratts Homes one and wouldn't most people pick the former?
It's less that we don't like new ones, but more that the new ones are basically a total racket where the development opportunity gets sold to the lowest possible bidder, who then make incredibly ugly houses as cheaply as possible with zero quality control, such that when people move in they immediately lose about half their value and have catalogues full of issues. Nobody really wants them, they'd rather have a property that's been lived in a while and had plenty of incremental upgrades from previous owners over years and actually have some vague sense of build quality. Feel like most of them are just there to sucker people into part ownership deals.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 25, 2024 14:24:31 GMT
Could well be true, I don't have any first hand experience. I agree on the houses being ugly, but again that seems to be largely because that's what people want. Generic 2 up 2 down square houses made of red brick (or similar) with a sloped grey tile roof. Basically emulating all the pre-war red brick grey roofed terraced houses. Any time anyone tries to make any remotely modern or interesting looking houses everyone up to and including PrinceKing Charles throws a fit.
Like that time someone came up with a really cool modern eco-friendly design for Chelsea Barracks, and the Daily Mail and everyone got up in arms and Charles proposed building something that looked like it was made 200 years ago.
As they say, you get the politiciansbuildings you deserve.
PS/ My dad was an architect and he used to get so frustrated with how unimaginative house and building design always had to be in the UK.
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Post by technoish on Mar 25, 2024 14:27:42 GMT
We have a mortgage, but I reckon rent on our 4 bed place in zone 2 London would be like £5-6k a month. If we needed to refix, our mortgage would go up to like £4.4k this summer.
It's bonus dependent, but we're probably into medium level six figures. If we weren't doing as well financially we would do what other people do, and move to commuter belt, or have a small place/flat. Although, it's mostly my wife doing well, she's an equity partner at her firm. What we don't understand is that we are also somehow looking at our bills now (admittedly mostly worrying we have spent too much on holidays this year, after no travel for years), while she has colleagues at same level as her whose spouses do not work, they all go on ridiculous holidays and own second/holiday homes. It must be family/inherited money. We've earned everything we have (ok I got £3k from my gran's inheritance) through salaries.
We do buy omaze tickets tho, gotta win that house!
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Post by zephro on Mar 25, 2024 14:45:06 GMT
Isn't this because people in the UK like old houses and don't really like new ones?
Ask most people to pick between the terraced Edwardian house and the brand new Barratts Homes one and wouldn't most people pick the former?
It's less that we don't like new ones, but more that the new ones are basically a total racket where the development opportunity gets sold to the lowest possible bidder, who then make incredibly ugly houses as cheaply as possible with zero quality control, such that when people move in they immediately lose about half their value and have catalogues full of issues. Nobody really wants them, they'd rather have a property that's been lived in a while and had plenty of incremental upgrades from previous owners over years and actually have some vague sense of build quality. Feel like most of them are just there to sucker people into part ownership deals. There's this. Then theres all the housing stock that does exist is subdivided repeatedly. So what was a 2-3 bed house for 2 parents and a kid or just 2 adults becomes 2 or 3 flats with couples. Having had the attic converted I'm such a way only fucking short people can get in. Which each having a loo and kitchen added where originally there was 1. Plus the hallways and stairs get shared so you lose space that way. It's why old council flats are so good, an architect actually designed them as flats and not with being a cheap profit motivated company setting the specs. Then there's London's genuine slum housing www.businessinsider.com/london-slum-house-photos-show-grim-conditions-tenants-endured-2023-8 first Google hit but these stories are regular as clockwork.
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Post by simple on Mar 25, 2024 14:45:31 GMT
Loads of the new builds around here are built on low lying fields that would regularly flood in the years before the houses going up. Anecdotally you hear stories of them having structural issues as a result but I don’t know how true or widespread that is.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 25, 2024 15:05:00 GMT
You also don't have to rebuild your houses every 30 years. Imagine if you had to do that as well... Given the quality of some of the new builds in the UK, that maybe a factor for some of them.
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Post by X201 on Mar 25, 2024 15:08:45 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 25, 2024 15:10:38 GMT
It was on the cards with the recall petition but that still has a month to run but I guess he knew he was fucked. Parliament about to go into Easter recess so that'll probably delay the date.
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Post by clemfandango on Mar 25, 2024 15:18:33 GMT
Scott Benton is a detestable dick, I do feel a bit sorry for him though as he obviously idolised Ben Bradley and thought copying him was a route to success, but Bradley isn't treacle thick like Benton and understands the grift.
Now to see Bradley fall that would be special...
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Post by technoish on Mar 25, 2024 15:28:53 GMT
Reports were it would mean the bye election could also take place on 2 May? Losing bunch of mayoral races, annihilation from councils, and another MP swing to Labour? Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
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Post by askew on Mar 25, 2024 15:33:07 GMT
In the Tory case, it really is a Bye Election
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 25, 2024 15:40:48 GMT
Looks like May 2nd is going to be the date then. Busy day for political anoraks.
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Post by Duffking on Mar 25, 2024 15:42:06 GMT
I'm guessing the actual election is going to happen late September/Early October - Tories probably reckon that if they hold it then they can limit the damage by making it as difficult as possible for students to vote.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 25, 2024 15:45:26 GMT
Rumour has it the 1922 Committee is only short of two letters to call a leadership election, as Brady keeps that sort of info to himself it's probably bullshit but Sunak is certainly on borrowed time.
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Post by simple on Mar 25, 2024 15:49:55 GMT
Surely even this terminally thick cohort would have the brains to know that pushing him out before the GE would be absolute armageddon for them electorally
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 25, 2024 15:52:58 GMT
They know that they are triggering a GE, right? There is absolutely no way he doesn't go 'fuck this, election' if they try to get rid of him. The country can't accept another PM. Its not like the Education Secretary job where you can get any old knobhead in for a few weeks.
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 25, 2024 15:56:11 GMT
Drowning people will do desperate things, the problem for them is finding someone stupid enough to lead them into a general election they know they're going to be absolutely fucked in. Anyone "serious" about being leader won't want the job until after the election and try to rebuild the party in their image *shudder*, not take on something that can't be saved.
It would be hilarious for a leadership election to be called and no one challenged Sunak for the job.
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 25, 2024 15:58:32 GMT
It would be madness, but would not put anything past this lot. If it did happen, he would likely weather the storm of a leadership contest, but his authority would be even more shot pieces than it already is. Can't see it achieving anything but a sooner election, which would be great for everyone except Tory MPs.
I suspect though that the reports of all these letters going in are just coming from the same dozen or so people that have been trying to get rid of him since he became PM.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Mar 25, 2024 16:05:38 GMT
Rumour has it the 1922 Committee is only short of two letters to call a leadership election, as Brady keeps that sort of info to himself it's probably bullshit but Sunak is certainly on borrowed time. Vote of no confidence, not necessarily leadership election. Not good though..... For Rishi.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 25, 2024 16:06:36 GMT
Yeah, dickheads like the 1922 committee need to touch grass and get out of their secret walnut panelled meeting rooms. Cosplaying hard men all day for the last ten years has absolutely warped these idiots. All you hear is them blustering on, briefing about letter going in and splinter factions. Shut the fuck up and get a real job.
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Post by zephro on Mar 25, 2024 16:13:40 GMT
They've not actually had any more letters, the threshold just keeps going down due to by-elections and suspensions.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 25, 2024 16:15:46 GMT
Rather than doing one by-election a week, I think its probably more efficient to just to do all 600 odd at the same time.
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Post by simple on Mar 25, 2024 16:30:09 GMT
It really doesn’t get said enough but Graham Brady really plays an absolute blinder in managing to appear like he’s above all of this despite holding sway for all these years
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Post by Duffking on Mar 25, 2024 16:44:55 GMT
Yeah, dickheads like the 1922 committee need to touch grass and get out of their secret walnut panelled meeting rooms. Cosplaying hard men all day for the last ten years has absolutely warped these idiots. All you hear is them blustering on, briefing about letter going in and splinter factions. Shut the fuck up and get a real job. The whole point of being a tory MP is to not have a real job. Ignore your constituency, never turn up to Parliament unless forced to, put a good word in for your mate Tarquin who's a director at Dickhead Industries and collect your MP Salary and build pension.
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Post by X201 on Mar 25, 2024 16:59:39 GMT
Rather than doing one by-election a week, I think its probably more efficient to just to do all 600 odd at the same time. The Tories have been destroying the NHS and BBC one slice at a time, why should their majority be treated any different?
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Post by zephro on Mar 25, 2024 17:56:29 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Mar 25, 2024 18:11:29 GMT
I'm just about to jump on a train to Manchester. I'll keep an eagle eye out for the pond.
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Post by X201 on Mar 25, 2024 20:43:09 GMT
Tories just can’t catch a break anywhere. Analysts now predicting that U.K. inflation will be too low this year and the Bank of England will have to slash interest rates
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Mar 26, 2024 9:41:42 GMT
Tories just can’t catch a break anywhere. Analysts now predicting that U.K. inflation will be too low this year and the Bank of England will have to slash interest rates Excuse me?! Too low?! Can you share a link? I doubt we're going to less than 1% inflation any time soon.
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