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Post by manfromdelmonte on Dec 19, 2023 19:35:53 GMT
QANGO? I thought you said Tango!
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Post by X201 on Dec 19, 2023 19:41:43 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 19, 2023 20:48:53 GMT
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Post by X201 on Dec 19, 2023 20:56:43 GMT
“Mr Bone said the majority of the electorate in the constituency chose not to sign the recall petition,”
Er, a bit like the majority of the electorate not voting for you in the 2005 and 2010 elections then?
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Post by askew on Dec 19, 2023 20:57:34 GMT
One more down, 350 to go.
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Post by Vandelay on Dec 19, 2023 21:02:47 GMT
13.2% does sound quite low. No idea what percentage these normally get, but I did recently hear the only time one of these didn't pass was in Ian Paisley's seat, which also happened to be the first time a recall petition happened (also have heard that there were shenanigans involved, but not sure on the details).
I believe Bone had a comfortable majority, so I expect this one won't be changing hands.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 19, 2023 21:07:23 GMT
Current polling has a narrow Labour win, Reform basically stealing some of the Tory vote helping there. If Libs and Greens suggest their supporters vote tactically it flips. As for a recall petition, it just requires 10% of the voters in a constituency to actually sign it. Everyone in the Commons know the rules, maybe they shouldn't get themselves into a position to be threatened with one?
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Post by zephro on Dec 19, 2023 21:15:51 GMT
They don't need to suggest it. The voters have got quite good at tactical voting lately. That last one Labour and the Lib Dems both went for it but Labour still won.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 19, 2023 21:19:10 GMT
Shame more of the LibDems and Greens didn't vote tactically in Uxbridge and then that would have flipped as well and all the bullshit about ULEZ and net zero that Sunak has been spouting wouldn't have happened.
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Post by zephro on Dec 19, 2023 21:38:52 GMT
Shame more of the LibDems and Greens didn't vote tactically in Uxbridge and then that would have flipped as well and all the bullshit about ULEZ and net zero that Sunak has been spouting wouldn't have happened. Yeah that one was fucking mad. Silver lining it convinced Sunak to go pro car, which seems to have gone down like a fart in a space suit.
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Post by Vandelay on Dec 19, 2023 21:47:24 GMT
I still stand by what I thought back at the time of Uxbridge results; the Labour candidate fucked it by turning against ULEZ. Those that were angry about it weren't ever going to vote Labour and he just ended up turning away those that did support the scheme.
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Post by dfunked on Dec 20, 2023 8:14:00 GMT
Another day, another story that's clearly a load of bollocks for anybody who has ever used WhatsApp. "His messages AND my messages just deleted themselves magically. I guess we'll never know now..." * Shrug *
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Post by Dougs on Dec 20, 2023 8:23:03 GMT
I did like Lord Bethell incriminating himself in public though. He told the covid inquiry that he lost all his messages too - only to post one from that time period when piling on Michelle Mone.
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Post by Saul1138 on Dec 20, 2023 9:39:38 GMT
Can piss double strength, septuple strength of gtfo you fucking pansies. My piss isn’t sugar free. As a resident of Wellingborough, I did not vote for the recall of Peter Bone. And not doing so took a great courage of strength, as I fucking hate the tories. But Peter Bone helped my disabled father with the DWP before he passed, helped a friend, who is ex forces, table a motion that passed, and wasn’t completely awful. He wore a stupid, knitted hat in the HoP; to support a local charity. On top of that, Northamptonshire is proper BNP country. So he would have had a lot of support locally. And, he has been accused of wrongdoing. If I punched someone at work, I would be suspended, pending an investigation. I won’t lose any sleep if he is found to be a pervert and I waited for some proof.
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Post by geefe on Dec 20, 2023 10:21:27 GMT
I think that just highlights the difficult fact for a number of people - Tories aren't "evil". They are humans with different sides. I remember seeing Bone in a discussion with some women Labour MPs about the dangers of the job, the death threats, etc. They were all in agreement.
Yes, some of the current frontbench are absolutely insane but there are plenty of examples where there's much more in common with them than you'd think.
My local Tory got in by the skin of his teeth but is, by and large, approachable and visible in the community. He's not tweeting shite or stoking hate.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 20, 2023 10:48:32 GMT
Well, it’s two things, right? It’s literally his job to support people at a local level. It’s an absolute bare minimum and I know it’s a bar very few of them are able to leap over but here we are. And at a macro level, very few people are ‘evil’. It’s why you get racists coming out with ‘but you’re one of the good ones’.
But at that national, society wide level he has not only propped up a nasty, vicious government, he has voted for frankly offensive legislation and said some disgusting things in parliament.
So, yes, he may have worn a funny hat one time but also fuck him all the way into the sun.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 20, 2023 10:50:10 GMT
This is also why I still very much dislike Rory Stewart and if he ever did become a Labour MP, they would never get a vote from me until they went full Corbyn again.
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Post by Vandelay on Dec 20, 2023 11:29:48 GMT
Bone is very much at the heart of the numpty side of the party. I'm sure he has done some good things (and we should hear more about the positive things all MPs do for their communities) and completely understand why it would be hard to dislike an MP that helped you and your family personally, but the damage he has been involved with far outweighs any individual stories of Samaritan acts.
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Post by otto on Dec 20, 2023 12:42:34 GMT
The responsibility he personally carries for Brexit far outweighs any small gesture he might have made to individuals in my book.
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Post by X201 on Dec 20, 2023 13:22:25 GMT
I think this sums up the two sides thing.
My local Tory sent round a flyer the other week. One of the sections had him heroically standing next to a repaired 6ft long patch of road that had recently deteriorated rather rapidly. And he was doing the usual “fixing local problems” spiel.
But, everyone who lives here knows that literally 6ft from where the photographer was standing and in the MP’s eye-line, is a drain that collapsed in February 2018 and has never been repaired despite numerous complaints.
MP: Look, I got this little thing fixed. Public: What about this important bit of infrastructure mate?
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Dec 20, 2023 13:38:17 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Dec 20, 2023 13:59:07 GMT
Comms have absolutely smashed that.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 20, 2023 14:04:45 GMT
They want to be careful or they might give the impression that they care more about London than The North.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 20, 2023 15:09:12 GMT
Network North London * taps temple *
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Post by zephro on Dec 20, 2023 15:17:26 GMT
They want to be careful or they might give the impression that they care more about London than The North. I wish. Though I'm hard pressed to think of a bit of the country they do actually care about. North Yorkshire? The Tory bit of it.
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Post by Rich on Dec 20, 2023 16:17:20 GMT
Comms have absolutely smashed that. It's got to be deliberate. Someone surely fed up and taking the piss.
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Post by X201 on Dec 20, 2023 22:21:11 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 21, 2023 0:07:17 GMT
Looks like the Department for Transport deleted the tweet, just as well the internet tends not to forget things.
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Post by Dougs on Dec 21, 2023 7:24:34 GMT
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Dec 21, 2023 13:09:50 GMT
I should have known that Mone and Barrowman were also crypto shills
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