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Post by dfunked on May 19, 2022 14:51:47 GMT
Yeah, was more aimed at Danno, as in you might need a second kettle if your original isn't a gooseneck.
Best in to just ignore me. I've had like 5 coffees today because I ran out of tea.
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Post by スコットランド on May 19, 2022 14:57:26 GMT
I need explanations please. Timer we have phones and oven timer... We have normal kitchen scales. |
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Post by スコットランド on May 19, 2022 14:57:44 GMT
Yeah, was more aimed at Danno, as in you might need a second kettle if your original isn't a gooseneck. Best in to just ignore me. I've had like 5 coffees today because I ran out of tea. Ah, right, thanks. |
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Post by EMarkM on May 19, 2022 15:00:19 GMT
I need explanations please. Timer we have phones and oven timer... We have normal kitchen scales. I either use my phone or just “one thousand, two thousand…” to count the 45 second bloom and 30 second first pour. I use our normal kitchen scales to weigh the coffee and water, but I know I’d be better with ones that are more accurate and indicate a tenth of a gram. Practice has got me sufficiently consistent for my taste. |
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Post by gamecat on May 19, 2022 15:08:48 GMT
Combined all in one coffee wanker accurate to .1g scale and timers are handy is all, and don't break the bank unless you go stupid |
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Post by tonyferrino on May 19, 2022 19:25:56 GMT
You don't need a gooseneck kettle i.e. a thing that you boil in and pour from. A cheapo gooseneck jug will do, you just decant the boiling water from the regular kettle into the jug, then pour over the grounds from that.
Unless you are super duper ocd about water temp it's fine, it gives the water time to come off the boil and makes the pour much easier.
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Post by Vortex on May 19, 2022 19:31:33 GMT
A goose-necked pourer is what i got, since i already had a kettle. 😀
Fill from kettle, add to coffee, enjoy.
Works well.
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Post by EMarkM on May 19, 2022 19:40:30 GMT
A goose-necked pourer is what i got, since i already had a kettle. 😀 Fill from kettle, add to coffee, enjoy. Works well. Yep: me too. |
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Post by スコットランド on May 19, 2022 19:53:07 GMT
I just showed Mrs Ecosse videos of wankers showing how to do aeropress or v60 pour. She's not impressed, far too much fucking about in the morning  |
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Post by Ulythium on May 19, 2022 19:58:07 GMT
I just showed Mrs Ecosse videos of wankers She's not impressed
Can't rightly say I blame her.
Inane japery aside, one can be as wankery as one pleases - be that very or not at all - and still get good results with an AeroPress or a V60.
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Post by Sarfrin on May 19, 2022 20:03:57 GMT
I pour water out of a normal kettle into it. Don't weigh or time. Tastes fine.
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Post by dfunked on May 19, 2022 20:05:24 GMT
Aeropress is just bosh it in and give it a quick stir (title of your sex tape). They're no faff at all!
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Post by EMarkM on May 19, 2022 20:11:32 GMT
I find the V60 a pleasant ritual that ties in with me making a mug of PG Tips for Mrs. EMarkM.
Wouldn’t call it a faff: it’s more of a “me time” or meditation type space.
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Post by Vortex on May 19, 2022 20:23:13 GMT
Definitely. It's a pleasant ritual & doesn't take overly long.
Guess it depends how arsey you want to be. I don't bother with the scales with the v60.
It can be as simple or as wanky as you want to be.
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Post by Reviewer on May 19, 2022 20:28:53 GMT
I pour water out of a normal kettle into it. Don't weigh or time. Tastes fine. I measured the water the first time but I don’t need to after that, plus or minus 20ml out of 300ml isn’t going to make much difference. I like a good few minutes brewing as well so 4 minutes or 4 1/2 won’t make a huge difference. I do weigh the beans and grind them fresh each day though, and the beans are always less than a month since roasting and good. I use the clever dripper with water in first as well so no need for the unusual kettle. Those that do all those other steps, I admire your patience and wish I could do the same. |
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Post by mrharvest on May 20, 2022 8:38:30 GMT
Aeropress is just bosh it in and give it a quick stir (title of your sex tape). They're no faff at all! I would have said so too. Then unfortunately due to watching one video from that insufferable toff James Hoffman where he tested the variables I was motivated to do my own testing. And yes, unfortunately he was right and especially the brew time makes a difference. But it doesn't have to be difficult. My method is: - Inverted - Measure coffee - Kettle right off the boil - Pour in, stir - Screw on cap - I use a metal filter disc - Time approx. 3-4 minutes - Press gently until hiss Yes, it does take a while but most of it is the brewing time which is hands off. But speaking of differences: How much do you peeps pay per 250g of coffee? I'm currently buying mostly £3.50 bags of Sainsburys single origin coffees. They're occasionally very good, mostly pretty average. Enough for an okay couple of daily cups. |
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Post by Ulythium on May 20, 2022 9:05:13 GMT
I would have said so too. Then unfortunately due to watching one video from that insufferable toff James Hoffman where he tested the variables I was motivated to do my own testing. And yes, unfortunately he was right and especially the brew time makes a difference.
How DARE you, sir! Thou shalt not take the name of Coffee Jesus in vain!
Probably somewhere between £4.50 and £7.00 per bag from most of the independent producers; around the same as you from the supermarkets. Waitrose have some good own-label coffees for £2.50-£3.50, and they also sell a couple of premium Taylors of Harrogate products that go on promotion quite often (RRP £5.50, sale price £4.00).
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Post by Reviewer on May 20, 2022 9:14:52 GMT
The biggest issue with supermarket coffee is some of it has been on the shelf or in store for months so won’t taste as good.
It’s worth paying a little more for specialist/freshly roasted coffee, some is still only a couple of quid more.
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Post by Vortex on May 20, 2022 9:18:21 GMT
I go for the £6-10 250g (now (208g) range from freshly roasted wanker beans from various companies.
Mostly bought from deli/cafes/local coffee roasters in town&nearby city, but sometimes get subbed to companies for a few months to get random bean of month stuff sent in.
Currently on a 6 month sub from my sister for the semi-amusingly named 'perky blenders'. Unfortunately, the couple of bags I've had so far have been a bit bland.
I need to buy more beans this weekend, as I have run out, which is a disaster.
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Post by LFace on May 20, 2022 9:33:10 GMT
Out of all coffee beans I've tried, including expensive indie hipster, cheap Lidl/Aldi, lavazza and Tesco branded, and the one I always end up going back to as being the most tasty is Taylors of Harrogate Italian strength 4 in the green/white pack.
I have never had a bad batch of that and now buy the big £7 bag of the stuff from supermarket. All others have been crap in comparison.
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Post by gamecat on May 20, 2022 10:47:46 GMT
Is there any other supermarket coffee with a roasted date? I only know of Union (in Sainsbury's, good but expensive), and Starbucks, that give you any clue how old it is.
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Post by EMarkM on May 20, 2022 11:44:02 GMT
Is there any other supermarket coffee with a roasted date? I only know of Union (in Sainsbury's, good but expensive), and Starbucks, that give you any clue how old it is. I've just checked my Morrison's House Blend Ground, and they don't have a roasted date. Neither do the Taylor's bags that I picked up from there on offer the other day. I have a bag of the green Italian Taylor's, mentioned above, that I'm looking forward to trying, but I'm currently on the "Mild Weekend" one or whatever it's called - nice and gentle. |
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Post by robthehermit on May 20, 2022 15:52:23 GMT
I've been enjoying Morrisons Molten Magma as a cheap alternative to Hot Lava Java but those days are now behind me as Mrs Hermit has banned me from high caffeine coffee and indeed any coffee after 1pm.
She mumbled something about it being bad for my heart and my anxiety so that was the end of that. Back to asda/lidl/cheapo roast for me. Weirdly, she still lets me smoke copious amounts of weed in the evenings and at weekends which by my reckoning is probably far worse. Perhaps its got something to do with the fact she likes weed and not coffee?
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Post by mrharvest on May 21, 2022 10:12:20 GMT
Is there any other supermarket coffee with a roasted date? I only know of Union (in Sainsbury's, good but expensive), and Starbucks, that give you any clue how old it is. Based on my observations of the Sainsbury's stuff (that's the single origins) that I buy it's exactly one year before the best before date. Incidentally I wasn't impressed with the Union stuff at all. I think why I've moved to the cheap supermarket stuff (and I bunch all the supermarket own brands into the same category) is pure laziness. Before Covid I'd go to town every day for work but I've been working remotely last two years. Literally been to the office once in that time. I also started getting my groceries delivered. So I practically never leave the flat except within walking distance. And due to Covid the only roastery within 1 mile of me closed down due to fewer customers. So to get a good quality coffee I'd need to either go out of my way or order. I was ordering for a while but £10 per bag + P&P was feeling a bit steep when the supermarket stuff is occasionally pretty good. And especially since the posties here occasionally just take it to the depot anyway and I have to go to town to just pick it up, making it more effort. I was just curious if people are more in the £3 per bag or £10 per bag camp. |
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Post by Sarfrin on May 21, 2022 10:24:08 GMT
Closer to £3 per bag. Much like paying £30+ for wine, my palate isn't sophisticated enough to justify paying three times the price for something that doesn't taste hugely different to me.
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Post by EMarkM on May 25, 2022 7:26:46 GMT
Every day, in every way, I’m getting better and better!
Ahem
ANYWAY
Think I’ve got my head around the pourover bloom technique a bit more: I just needed to be quicker, and not let the water start to soak away before the swirl. Speed means that twice the weight of water to the coffee is just about enough.
Sorry if not coherent: only two sips in!
Taylor’s weekend jobby thingy, black, 12g with 250g total water.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 25, 2022 8:00:29 GMT
Water shouldnt drain away so fast that you cant get all of your grinds wet. If you pour and swirl and you still cant get full coverage, maybe try a slightly finer grind. At this stage the coffee should be soaking in the water rather than letting it pass through.
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Post by EMarkM on May 25, 2022 8:09:14 GMT
Bongo Heracles I've not got a choice of grind just at the moment, as I'm on pre-ground stuff still, but I know a few of you have mentioned that before. I perhaps overstated it a little - I've been taking that long over the initial bloom pour that there has definitely been time for some of the water to escape rather than contact 100% of the grounds. Now I've speeded it up just a little, I can cover the whole of the surface and get a swirl in before the liquid has had the chance to descend much. A little more understanding and progress each day - with your and everyone else's help on here, I'm certainly getting there! Cheers.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 25, 2022 8:27:10 GMT
Yeah, practice does make perfect. It took me ages to get the final swirl, the one where you have dumped in all the water and are trying to knock the grounds off the filter paper, right.
If once you crack it, I would definitely recommend getting a hand grinder and a bag of supermarket beans or something. You can get a Hario Skerton for like 25 quid which isnt much money for something that lets you get a feel for grind differences. Then you can either bin the whole thing or go big.
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