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Post by mrpon on Aug 7, 2024 13:18:45 GMT
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Aug 16, 2024 8:53:40 GMT
Has anyone painted their kitchen cabinets? Was it a disaster?
I want to try it on mine but I can't imagine a gloss white will actually look good without a spraygun. I'd be using a roller.
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Post by nexus6 on Aug 16, 2024 9:02:53 GMT
Has anyone painted their kitchen cabinets? Was it a disaster? I want to try it on mine but I can't imagine a gloss white will actually look good without a spraygun. I'd be using a roller. You’d be better just buying new doors to clip on to the hinges. |
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Post by Dougs on Aug 16, 2024 9:11:50 GMT
I've not used them but Joe's Doors spam my facey all the time.
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Post by minimatt on Aug 16, 2024 11:39:00 GMT
previous owners painted our kitchen cabinets magnolia, with a brush. Actually I think they had their toddler paint them. They look more ghastly than you can imagine.
However I've painted lots of MDF cabinetry in satin white with a roller which ends up looking fine, dare I say "good" - a foam roller, and don't skimp on the primer coat.
Been painting a lot of metal lately with rattle cans and been pleasantly surprised with results, might be worth a shot for a job where it's not worth buying, learning, a spray gun. If you get any overspray drips just sand back and have another go. Again I'd imagine a good primer coat is important
edit: I suspect your best bet, as mentioned, is replacement doors. But if you bank on going down that route you've little to lose experimenting first with a foam roller or maybe rattle can. Just don't forget primer coat
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Post by henroben on Aug 16, 2024 15:07:41 GMT
Has anyone painted their kitchen cabinets? Was it a disaster? I want to try it on mine but I can't imagine a gloss white will actually look good without a spraygun. I'd be using a roller. I painted mine, but they're wooden cabinets from the 1950's and you could faintly see the grain through the original paint job and some brush marks as well, so I wasn't expecting the smooth modern finish anyway. Having said that, they turned out reasonably smooth after all as I used an oil based satin and took the doors off to paint so they could be laid down flat. The down side of oil based paint is of course that it takes AGES to bloody cure / dry, but the plus point is that it will flow and brush / roller marks tend to just vanish. Ultimately it comes down to what you're expecting and what potential result you can live with... but buying new doors will be the quick and easy solution with a guaranteed good finish, albeit at a cost. But as minimatt says, why not have a go? With spray paint I'm not sure, as I've never used it for cabinets, but I did respray a 1940's aluminium sink unit with some of that appliance spray paint you can get and it turned out surprisingly well. I just gingerly did several thin layers and stopped when it looked ok. But again, I like things to look a bit used so I wasn't after a perfect finish really. |
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Aug 16, 2024 15:38:52 GMT
Could get them wrapped if they're plain.
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Post by Tomo on Aug 16, 2024 20:28:46 GMT
Helpful few recent posts. I've got a load of built in wardrobes in my house which have horrible old fashioned, cigarette yellow-stained doors. The cupboards are super useful, but getting new doors will cost an absolute fortune I imagine. So I'm going to try painting them soon. Will report back when I get round to it.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 16, 2024 21:18:20 GMT
Helpful few recent posts. I've got a load of built in wardrobes in my house which have horrible old fashioned, cigarette yellow-stained doors. The cupboards are super useful, but getting new doors will cost an absolute fortune I imagine. So I'm going to try painting them soon. Will report back when I get round to it.
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Post by damagedinc on Aug 16, 2024 21:23:24 GMT
Has anyone painted their kitchen cabinets? Was it a disaster? I want to try it on mine but I can't imagine a gloss white will actually look good without a spraygun. I'd be using a roller. I have, turned out ok. I used valspar furniture paint. They're typical howdens doors, roughed them up and then painted over with roller and brush. Not perfect but turned out quite nice. If you have the same sort of doors I would heat gun off the laminate, paint them then seal with some sort of clear laquer. Getting new doors obvs the easiest but be very expensive. If you can live with the imperfections defo give it a go. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Aug 17, 2024 9:40:09 GMT
Thanks both.
I'm looking at getting a new counters so might just have to bite bullet and do the whole kitchen.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Aug 18, 2024 17:32:26 GMT
Finally finished all the woodwork, got the screw holes to fill (about 80 I think) then be time for priming and painting etc ...
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Post by minimatt on Aug 18, 2024 20:01:56 GMT
that's awesome freddie - scribing looks ace too! you must be well proud
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Post by Dougs on Aug 18, 2024 23:01:48 GMT
Absolutely. Top work.
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Post by Zuluhero on Aug 18, 2024 23:32:48 GMT
Really impressed!
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Post by mrpon on Aug 19, 2024 7:31:32 GMT
\o/ looks great fred!
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Post by minimatt on Sept 4, 2024 10:56:09 GMT
there now follows a long rant about "rustic" "hand crafted" tat and its cost. i'll spoiler tag it as i spam this place enough as it is tldr: good furniture at affordable prices is available at ikea. if you buy "hand crafted" furniture off the internet at ikea prices it's going to be utter garbage. if you want to buy good hand crafted furniture it's going to cost far more than you'd likely want to pay, or indeed is sensible to pay given the perfectly good furniture ikea puts out for far less
friend bought a table. i made a better one
old and busted friend bought a "rustic" "oak" "hand crafted" narrow side table to sit alongside the sofa, somewhere to put books/coffee/cats - extremely similar to this on etsy, only using 19.5x4.5cm timber rather than the 14.5x4.5cm used in that etsy one (and countless other identical ones). she paid £90. and it's complete utter garbage. it's five bits of pine cut by someone who once saw a picture of a right angle, screwed together with screws sunk just below the surface, screw holes filled with dowels caps cut kinda but not at all flush, long edges sorta rounded over but short edges left sharp, and poorly stained before being boxed and shipped. no evidence of it ever seeing a sander or any oil/varnish/wax.
when measuring it i realised those dimensions - 19.5 x 4.5cm - are exactly what you'd expect from regularised 8x2 carcassing timber. this being confirmed by the end of a C16 stamp still visible on the underside of the bottom shelf. untreated 8x2 is about £4.10 a metre - they've literally taken construction timber straight from the builders yard and with no further prep just banged it together - the rough roundover seen on the long edges being the regularised CLS finish made with planer blades fed a steady diet of rocks and nails. incidentally, those examples on etsy all using 4.5cm thick 14.5cm wide timber? you'll never guess the typical dimensions of regularised 6x2 (about £3.30/m)...
new hotness so made a new one from a couple of metres of actual (albeit not the best) 25mm oak i had lying around, the remains of some offcuts i got free a few years ago - commercial cost today maybe £25-40 inc vat dependent on locale and whether rough sawn or PSE ripped to desired width filled knot holes with araldite & coffee grounds sanded 80, 120, 180, and finally 240 grit identified best order of cuts to ensure optimum placement of more attractive sections and ensure joinery avoided weak spots cut the five pieces to length routed dado slots in sides glued the middle & lower shelves to the sides (PU glue as this tends to be better than PVA for long grain to end grain) waited overnight for glue to cure, cleaned up the squeeze out marked and routed the dado slots for the top shelf and glued that up waited another night for that to to cure before cleaning it up rounded over all edges, detail sanded as necessary
hoovered and wiped away all dust and applied first coat of oil
waited overnight to cure before denibbing with wire wool and applying second coat of oil waited overnight to cure before denibbing with wire wool and applying third coat of oil waited a couple of days before applying and buffing a coat of wax
i list all those steps to illustrate why even this bog standard simple table took maybe a day of work, spread over a week. And hence why it would end up costing far more than most (including myself) would want to pay .obvs I'm doing this for a friend and to get rid of scrap leftovers so good karma and maybe a bottle of plonk are coming my way but i can't see how it'd be remotely possible to charge less than a couple of hundred quid for it commercially
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Post by Dougs on Sept 4, 2024 11:34:34 GMT
Very nice piece of work. And this is the problem with craftsmanship (including stuff like baking celebration cakes). The cost and time outweighs what someone is willing to pay.
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Post by technoish on Sept 4, 2024 11:42:32 GMT
Some woodwork is something I'm interested in, I mean enough to do some stuff like shelving units for kids for an alcove as nothing online is right size, nothing fancy - although I recognise that even this requires some skills. Maybe once I've cleared space in shed I could justify some more tools...
But yeah, cheap stuff or even not so cheap stuff online usually has some really basic construction approaches - probably pine, all visible screws, etc. I watched one YouTube video so have been spammed by more and they demonstrate all of the "basic" skills you should be using for even simple products.
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Post by Lukus on Sept 4, 2024 11:47:25 GMT
Being one of those 'creative' wankers, what I've learnt over the years is there's always someone with far less skill, talent or knowledge than you* somehow making it. Presumably because they're better at blagging it and don't suffer that crippling self doubt every artist really ought to  *And equally I'm well aware in the scheme of these things I'm pretty average and there are so, so many more talented and capable people than me, making it and not making it. |
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Post by mrpon on Sept 4, 2024 12:34:15 GMT
I talked about this with my Dad the other day, he's a semi-retired cabinet maker. Said he visited an old client and his 25 year old piece of furniture was still in tact and in pristine condition. He obviously didn't charge for 25 year usage so lost out potentially.
We live in the throwaway society.
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Post by robthehermit on Sept 5, 2024 8:06:48 GMT
Just spent ages watering the lawn I laid last week and come in to find there's a weather warning for rain kicking off in about 30 minutes.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 5, 2024 8:26:21 GMT
It's already hitting down here. Miserable as. Fucking hate rain.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 5, 2024 8:45:23 GMT
Just grey clouds here. And more grey clouds predicted for the next week. Sigh.
'Summer' seemed to last about 4 weeks this year.
Glad we went away twice throughout the year to see a sunlike object shining elsewhere.
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Post by nexus6 on Sept 5, 2024 9:43:22 GMT
Glorious sunshine and a bit of pleasant warmth here 😎
For once.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 9, 2024 15:30:46 GMT
Doing my head in the cold calling round my area. We're doing a driveway just a few doors down.. we can do it for x amount. I've noticed your windows are old. We've noticed your guttering needs replacing.
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Post by Tomo on Sept 9, 2024 17:07:48 GMT
Never used to have it till we moved to terraced house in East London.
Had a guy asking if I wanted my porch doing. No, fuck off. And the other day I had a guy with a tub of cleaning products turn up, wave a laminated card in front of me, tell me he is an ex-con and can I buy a few bits to help him out. He immediately launched into telling me he had cloths, sprays, disinfectants, etc. and then after a minute of this he looked pissed off when I said no thanks. Just nnnrghhh. Just because you haven't given me the opportunity to say no immediately, doesn't mean I'm going to say yes a bit later on.
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Post by minimatt on Sept 9, 2024 17:15:03 GMT
living in a close full of bungalows has been eye-opening as it's shorthand for "gullible pensioner" and we get a regular stream of cunts starting their "you need your gutters cleaning for a mere £3,000" pitch before they notice we aren't old and wrinkly but young and vibrant and so incredibly attractive
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Post by damagedinc on Sept 13, 2024 9:02:39 GMT
Question to the floor
Almost finished my "on the cheap 2nd hand kitchen" which is a make do job until we can afford to get a decent new one.
About to lay down the vinyl roll flooring. The question is.....
Do I remove the tiles. Screed and then put the roll down. Which will obviously do a better job but take more time.
Or
Use the screed to fill in the grout lines and then lay the roll over the top of the tiles. Saving time and mess.
My thought process is that this will one day be done properly. So is it worth me spending all that time lifting the tiles and screeding.
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Post by Lukus on Sept 13, 2024 9:14:56 GMT
I have considered this issue myself in the bathroom... My main concern is things like clearance on the door and under the bath.
*No help*
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