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Post by kal on Jun 8, 2023 9:11:49 GMT
West Ham fans are cunts up and down the country, week in, week out. Especially when it comes to singing songs about the holocaust/Jews. I know it's a minority, but it's a not insignificant one. Ah, my bad - had no idea of this, don't follow football as closely as I used to. So why come in here swinging then? |
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Post by kal on Jun 8, 2023 9:12:30 GMT
I don't get the reference. Character from Green Street. Which makes it even stranger considering its about West Ham hooligans. It’s a reference to an old Liverpool meme FFS. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Jun 8, 2023 9:20:58 GMT
Ah, my bad - had no idea of this, don't follow football as closely as I used to. So why come in here swinging then? I still follow it from a distance and it just surprised me to see everyone shitting on West Ham - it's not something I've ever picked up on. |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jun 8, 2023 9:21:03 GMT
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jun 8, 2023 9:22:22 GMT
"How am I doing boss?"
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jun 8, 2023 9:22:35 GMT
I forget which.
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Post by geefe on Jun 8, 2023 9:30:04 GMT
West Ham fans were apparently dicks at our last game, singing they sent us down. When they didn't, Everton did.
I'm glad Moyes won the cup and to see a non oil money team win but their fans didn't help themselves.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 8, 2023 9:30:52 GMT
Character from Green Street. Which makes it even stranger considering its about West Ham hooligans. It’s a reference to an old Liverpool meme FFS. Yes, I know that too - Shankly/Rodgers. Wasn't clear which bit muddy wasn't getting. Edit: now added I see. |
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Post by Dougs on Jun 8, 2023 9:32:02 GMT
Anyway, this was nice:
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Post by kal on Jun 8, 2023 9:40:33 GMT
It’s kind of amazing in a season where Arsenal could have won the league, Spurs had top four and Conte, and Chelsea spent the GDP of a small country, West Ham ended up having the best season of the London clubs.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 8, 2023 9:46:35 GMT
Any trophy automatically trumps all else imo. I don't get why (some) people are sneering at it.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Jun 8, 2023 9:47:18 GMT
Got to say I was a bit skeptical of the Conference League when it started but I've really enjoyed the bits I've watched of it and enjoy how seriously the clubs in it actually take it.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 8, 2023 9:49:19 GMT
Character from Green Street. Which makes it even stranger considering its about West Ham hooligans. It’s a reference to an old Liverpool meme FFS. Cool. Doesn't change them using a West ham thug from a movie though. |
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Post by geefe on Jun 8, 2023 9:53:53 GMT
Any trophy automatically trumps all else imo. I don't get why (some) people are sneering at it. Guaranteed that everyone other than Man City and maybe Chelsea/ Liverpool, would have snapped your arm off for it. |
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Post by Dougs on Jun 8, 2023 9:57:44 GMT
Got to say I was a bit skeptical of the Conference League when it started but I've really enjoyed the bits I've watched of it and enjoy how seriously the clubs in it actually take it. The problem is the impact on the league. But it's the same as the EL and you should aspire to have a squad that can do both. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 8, 2023 10:01:59 GMT
Any trophy automatically trumps all else imo. I don't get why (some) people are sneering at it. Guaranteed that everyone other than Man City and maybe Chelsea/ Liverpool, would have snapped your arm off for it. Exactly. I do laugh at some of the Spurs pages trying to shit on it. |
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Post by kal on Jun 8, 2023 10:03:38 GMT
Obviously things have worked out, but a few different results and they could have been relegated and not won the cup, in which case the narrative would be how awful the ECL is.
Cups are Cups but there is a hierarchy. I’m not particularly proud of the League Cups we’ve won. They’re nothing in comparison to my memories of winning the FA Cup or Europa League.
But yeah obviously for a club like West Ham it’s a big deal and I think they’ve benefited from Roma and Mourinho winning it last year which gave it some credibility. If we’d won the first one I’ve no doubt the Mickey Mouse thing would have been a lot louder.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Jun 8, 2023 10:10:04 GMT
As with the Europa League it could really do with just being a straight knockout competition to shave off games for the teams. That being said I think West Ham just genuinely underachieved this year in the league with no real good excuse. They were god awful for a large period and had one of those seasons where they were fortunate enough that there were a few teams that were even more terrible than they were to save their skin.
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Post by geefe on Jun 8, 2023 10:10:26 GMT
Suddenly have an urge for ready salted crisps
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Post by Dougs on Jun 8, 2023 10:26:01 GMT
There's def a hierarchy but I've loved every single trophy way more than top 4 finishes. Except perhaps the one in 2006. I suspect the bean counters think differently mind you.
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Post by DJCopa on Jun 8, 2023 10:30:44 GMT
I just see it as a replacement for the Cup Winners Cup (I know it isn't for the winners of a cup).
Anything you win by playing teams from other leagues is decent. Agree with others, straight knock out would be preferable.
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 8, 2023 10:32:47 GMT
We've mentioned it before. But the biggest issue with the Europa league is the 3rd place CL teams going into the knockout stages BS.
And yeah no need for the group stages for the Conference.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 8, 2023 10:36:46 GMT
I suspect JK Rowling is typing a furious tweet right now. |
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Post by simple on Jun 8, 2023 10:37:09 GMT
There's def a hierarchy but I've loved every single trophy way more than top 4 finishes. Except perhaps the one in 2006. I suspect the bean counters think differently mind you. If we’d won the League Cup this year I think half the city would have been burnt down in celebration |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Jun 8, 2023 10:37:13 GMT
League Cup win definitely felt better than when we'd confirmed our CL place this season. That being said that could very easily just be a bit of privilege having been able to watch us play in the CL every season for about 25 years straight. It probably feels awesome if you make it in once in a blue moon.
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Post by Gruf on Jun 8, 2023 10:46:34 GMT
I just see it as a replacement for the Cup Winners Cup (I know it isn't for the winners of a cup). Anything you win by playing teams from other leagues is decent. Agree with others, straight knock out would be preferable. Well the majority of the teams in the Champions league are not Champions, so the theory is a good one Follow the money |
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Post by simple on Jun 8, 2023 10:47:31 GMT
It is quite funny seeing people who were barely born when we last visited the San Siro being all “we’re back!” like they’re some old timer reminiscing over the days when we’d win back to back FA Cups
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Post by Vortex on Jun 8, 2023 11:01:01 GMT
That painting above is *amazing*.  |
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Post by muddyfunster on Jun 8, 2023 11:11:06 GMT
It’s a reference to an old Liverpool meme FFS. Yes, I know that too - Shankly/Rodgers. Wasn't clear which bit muddy wasn't getting. Edit: now added I see. I didn't get any of it, not seen green street nor the Liverpool meme so thanks both. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Jun 8, 2023 11:22:00 GMT
There's def a hierarchy but I've loved every single trophy way more than top 4 finishes. Except perhaps the one in 2006. I suspect the bean counters think differently mind you. Yep, the thing with trophies are they a moments. You remember the day, the goals and the feeling after. Top four or doing better than expected but not winning the league just doesn't have that same dopamine hit. Especially now that we aren't allowed to celebrate wining league games anymore. I do think a big factor in the Conference League being a (qualified) success is that reasonably historic and storied clubs who have dropped down the pecking order a bit have got to the final. Roma vs Feyenoord and West Ham vs Fiorentina feel like 'proper' European nights. Had it been an AZ vs Basel final, it wouldn't have had the same vibe. More Intertoto Cup than Cup Winner's Cup that. |
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