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Post by JuniorFE on May 31, 2023 22:06:06 GMT
I know its the rules but retaking for that type of encroachment is total bull I'd like to see a replay of the encroachment tbh, we never got one here... Not that I mind Sevilla winning this, but just to see. |
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Post by deez on May 31, 2023 22:07:15 GMT
I dunno. Goalies have figured it out so encroachment is rare. Pretty sure he was pushing out on purpose in desperation.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on May 31, 2023 22:14:42 GMT
I know its the rules but retaking for that type of encroachment is total bull I'd like to see a replay of the encroachment tbh, we never got one here... Not that I mind Sevilla winning this, but just to see. It's a tight one. I think the angle of this makes it look worse but he did take a small hop forward before the kick. |
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Post by JuniorFE on May 31, 2023 22:19:11 GMT
I'd like to see a replay of the encroachment tbh, we never got one here... Not that I mind Sevilla winning this, but just to see. It's a tight one. I think the angle of this makes it look worse but he did take a small hop forward before the kick. They just showed another replay from the side here, too. It is definitely encroachment, but still... I dunno, it feels like the type of rule that maybe could use a bit of looking at, but at the same time any changes would just make it worse/more convoluted, if that makes sense. |
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Post by peekconfusion on May 31, 2023 22:22:53 GMT
Isn't the rule that they have to have at least one foot on the line when the ball is struck? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
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Post by JuniorFE on May 31, 2023 22:26:47 GMT
Isn't the rule that they have to have at least one foot on the line when the ball is struck? Seems pretty straightforward to me. It is, any complaints are more of a "feelsbad" kneejerk reaction that it happened this way and over such a small difference. Or, you know, Roma fans being bitter (not here, but the stuff I saw on Facebook comments, for instance... Oof) Could the rule potentially change at some point, maybe, but I also don't know if a change could actually make it better because, as you said, it is straightforward and works. |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on May 31, 2023 22:26:52 GMT
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Post by JuniorFE on May 31, 2023 22:30:08 GMT
Jesus I'm surprised he didn't just dive at the ball  |
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Post by peekconfusion on May 31, 2023 22:30:17 GMT
I remember Dida also being practically within touching distance at OT one year. |
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Post by simple on May 31, 2023 23:24:31 GMT
Yeah, that kind of thing is nonsense but the Roma keeper giving half an inch because he jumped early feels harsh. The only way to save anything going to either corner is to jump before the ball is struck because its coming at you too fast and from too close to react as/after its struck.
No sour grapes about Seville winning I think this is more one of those “they’ve ruined offside and handball” complaints about how the laws have been tinkered and applied the last few years.
Plus I like the drama of the game being more free. A shootout where the kick to win is saved and the shootout continues is way more exciting than just getting a second chance and punting it in now the keeper’s been rattled.
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Post by Dougs on May 31, 2023 23:24:34 GMT
Didn't watch, but that's always been the rule, hasn't it? That's mad by Dudek.
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Post by peekconfusion on May 31, 2023 23:35:59 GMT
For me, it's unambiguity is a luxury we don't always get in football. Yeah, there are those situations where the fine margins seem unfair but at least we can apply the rules consistently every time. Similar to goal line technology or false starts in athletics.
If the PK rules where to change, I would prefer if they first did away with the attacker being allowed to stagger their run up, which is universally shit.
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Post by simple on May 31, 2023 23:43:32 GMT
I like ambiguity, it adds to the human drama of it all. If we’re dealing in absolutes why not just get the AI to make all the calls.
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Post by JuniorFE on May 31, 2023 23:43:41 GMT
Anyway, Mourinho has lost his first European final.
Looks like it was his... Not-So-Special One
/coat
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Post by peekconfusion on Jun 1, 2023 0:04:32 GMT
I like ambiguity, it adds to the human drama of it all. If we’re dealing in absolutes why not just get the AI to make all the calls. Fair enough. I just think it breeds inconsistency which in turn breeds unfairness. If there were a hypothetical perfect system for determining offsides (for example) I would absolutely favour that over the current system. Would some drama be lost? Absolutely but I think a lot of that kind of drama is detrimental to the game. |
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Post by JonFE on Jun 1, 2023 6:26:34 GMT
He took it rather well, I guess... Disclaimer: audio not safe for work.
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Post by askew on Jun 1, 2023 6:49:42 GMT
What did he call him at the end there?
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 1, 2023 6:56:54 GMT
He should take his own advice and "Calma, calma"...
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 1, 2023 6:57:42 GMT
Called him a mother fucker I think. Great stuff
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Post by simple on Jun 1, 2023 7:58:01 GMT
Maybe its time to see if there is a spark to be rekindled in north London
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Post by Tomo on Jun 1, 2023 10:00:05 GMT
Wow.
For a moment last night Chelsea-Mourinho nostalgia washed over me and I wanted Roma to do it, but this reminds me what a cnut the man is. Horrendous behaviour. Like how everyone is just standing back and watching it unfurl too.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jun 1, 2023 21:10:01 GMT
And it turns out actions have onsequences.
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Post by JonFE on Jun 1, 2023 21:20:42 GMT
I sure hope the "Special One" does not end up returning to Premier League one day, not as long as Taylor is an acting referee at least  |
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Post by muddyfunster on Jun 1, 2023 21:48:05 GMT
Barney Ronay's article was good. Pointing out that Mourinho has always instructed his team's to appeal for cards, feign injury and hassle the ref. i.e. making the refs job as hard as possible.
So to then insult the ref for a perceived failure to do a good job is even worse.
We've long known what kind of man he is. This isn't a surprise.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 1, 2023 22:14:35 GMT
That's an appalling failure by the authorities imo.
Btw, why is the conference league final later than the EL?
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Post by simple on Jun 1, 2023 22:56:12 GMT
And it turns out actions have onsequences. The replies to that tweet are so gross too. As if physically harassing and attacking a family in public isn’t enough of a wake-up call for the dickhead brigade. The police or security or whoever those guys are are hardly earning their pay. I wonder if Jose will give his Trump post-Jan 6 non-apology soon. |
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Post by Syrette on Jun 1, 2023 22:59:07 GMT
People are so weird. It's just sport.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jun 2, 2023 8:31:24 GMT
Why was the Europa league final before the Conference league?!
Surely it should be in order of importance, Conference, Europa league, Champions league.
Weird.
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Post by Vortex on Jun 2, 2023 10:55:51 GMT
That's what I would have thought too. It was an odd arrangement of dates for them imo. Although obviously, if my team is in the Europa conference league next season, then it will be the one with the utmost importance! |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jun 7, 2023 15:56:50 GMT
Here we go again
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