DC Films

4K trailer link vimeo.com/633805668

SO PUMPED

I watched all the Apes films back to back the other day and the jump in quality from the first to Reeves' films is marked. The first is perfectly adequate and had the burden of having to set everything up but it's so generic with pantomime villains. When Dawn begins with the closeup of Caesar's eyes and slowly zooms out you know this is a director who knows exactly what he's doing.

Dawn and War are excellent but fuck they get bleak, for blockbusters.

I'm sure The Batman will be good - maybe even the best live-action Batman film so far? - but Christ on a bike I am so bored by dark, realist takes on Batman. I'm not saying go all Schumacher again, but making the Riddler a guy who - in the trailer at least - comes across as a cross between Jigsaw and John Doe from Seven just feels so utterly first-base. Why can't he just be a bank robber who wants people to think he's cleverer than Batman? Why can't the Penguin just be a corrupt guy who owns a nightclub? Why can't Batman have auto-gyros and a sci-fi closet?

I dunno. Batman is my favourite superhero* but I feel like we've had mostly similar takes on him for at least twenty years now, if not thirty, whereas there are tons of variations in the comics that never get explored cinematically. It's like if the last three Bonds in a row had been Lazenby, Dalton and Craig.

*technically my favourite superhero is Nightwing, but, y'know.

Anyway. That's my whinge. Sorry to drag the thread down.

I'm willing to give Reeves the benefit of the doubt as I love his work but yeah, I would rather they do something different than Batman everytime things get lean.

Does the Flash look good, I mean we barely saw anything to get any kind of impression.

Hmmm, well I'm going to set my arse temps to tepid until I see some form of a proper trailer.

Unless they end up doing multiple Batman films in multiple timelines (which WB May do) we’re getting a trilogy of films with Patman. Anything new and different won’t be until these are completed. I’m sure one of the WB execs talked about having multiple different Batman films so maybe Flash will open that up. Or they’ll just do it anyway. But they’ll probably do the same thing again. Only slightly differently.

I have zero interest in any of the current dc films so the flash wasn’t on my radar until I read on a site that Keaton is playing his version of Batman again.

The flash is still shit though

Loved it but also got a lot of similarities to TDK and TDKR with certain story elements

Dougray Scott is a bit of dick shocker.

I love Fraser and I'm happy he's in Batgirl, but has Firefly ever been seen as a Batgirl villain? Has she had significant run-ins with him in the comics?

I'm not sure, but there's definitely a thing within WB/DC where the big heroes, Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman, are seemingly exclusive to the big screen, and some of their foes or storylines are being adapted for the b-characters. Arrow having a long story arcs focused on Batman characters such as Ra's Al Ghul or Huntress being similar examples.

Okay, true, but it took them some time to get there. They had to introduce him through Supergirl first, and even then it was mostly Kara mentioning "my cousin" for the first season or two. And that was another case where they adapted Superman storylines for Supergirl. First thing to come to my head would be the Bizarro episode.

I think it’s mostly that they were trying not to create multiple parallel versions across media, but after Justice League shit the bed they accepted it was better to have something successful with the trinity rather than nothing. Superman now has the show, The Batman movie is coming up and WW is getting a 3rd film.

I don’t know the character that well but I don’t think GA has much in the way of notable villains. Supergirl too. Not disagreeing with you that they did it, just think it’s a fairly logical process. Ras wasn’t going to be used in any films again after Batman Begins, so he was free to build around in Arrow.