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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Apr 3, 2023 5:47:15 GMT
Gemcraft: Frostborn Wrath (Tower defense): I did put a lot of time into the predecessor some years back and this one is quite similar. On top of that the difficulty is also significantly higher from the get-go, so the few hours I have spent with it haven't been all that enjoyable. I'll just put it back into the backlog for now and maybe come back to it some day.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 8, 2023 17:06:39 GMT
Dying Light Free on Epic Games currently. Enjoyed it for a bit, but now I actually need to fight things I've given up as I find the combat utterly abysmal. Passed an hour or so away I guess.
Glad I didn't pay for it, at any rate.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 8, 2023 18:18:21 GMT
Dying Light Free on Epic Games currently. Enjoyed it for a bit, but now I actually need to fight things I've given up as I find the combat utterly abysmal. Passed an hour or so away I guess.
Glad I didn't pay for it, at any rate.
I really enjoyed the melee combat, guns no as they were truly awful to use, but melee was really fun especially playing it through completely with a mate and kicking zombies to death together never got old.
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Post by Frog on Apr 8, 2023 18:25:08 GMT
I didn't think the combat was great tbh, functional at best. First person melee is almost always shit (apart from chivalry).
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 8, 2023 18:25:48 GMT
Against Zombies it's not so bad, but had a couple of missions where I had to take down humans and it was just tedious, blocking most attacks, kick seemingly doing nothing, then stamina seems to deplete after a few swings. So yeah, the experience just made me want to stop playing. So I did.
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Post by RadicalRex on Apr 8, 2023 18:29:20 GMT
The absence of Dying Light on EGS revealed to me that Germany banning video games is somehow still a thing
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 8, 2023 18:39:31 GMT
Against Zombies it's not so bad, but had a couple of missions where I had to take down humans and it was just tedious, blocking most attacks, kick seemingly doing nothing, then stamina seems to deplete after a few swings. So yeah, the experience just made me want to stop playing. So I did. Oh yeah humans wasn't particularly great. But again co-op makes anything better.
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Post by dfunked on Apr 9, 2023 9:44:40 GMT
Gotham Knights - SX It's serviceable I guess, but the combat just doesn't have the same kind of meaty flow (ewww) as the Arkham games. I played a chunk of it mostly ignoring the open world busywork, but sat down to play some more and just couldn't be bothered. At least it was less than a tenner...
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 9, 2023 10:03:34 GMT
Gotham Knights - SX It's serviceable I guess, but the combat just doesn't have the same kind of meaty flow (ewww) as the Arkham games. I played a chunk of it mostly ignoring the open world busywork, but sat down to play some more and just couldn't be bothered. At least it was less than a tenner... Someone said the combat was the same as the other games, it's not is it?
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Post by Frog on Apr 9, 2023 10:09:37 GMT
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Post by lukasz on Apr 9, 2023 10:26:53 GMT
Empire total war.
I did get it on release and in 2013 I did full campaign.
Every few years since then I think I really should play it again.
I love the period, the grand map strategy...
But I dislike the battles. They are dull. The novelty of them when shogun 1 and medieval 1 were released is gone. When playing it in 2013 after a while I just autsolve all battles cause couldn't really bother with them.
So installed, played two turns. Autsolved first battle, won, autosolved second and lost.
Yep. Not for me this game and the genre (empire is the last total war game i touched)
On dying light.
I got dying 2 to coop with friend and I dropped it quickly as the game was just running simulator. We spent 4 or so hours and we just run or sneak past zombies.
Sure you can fight but fighting seems like it's waste of time and just stops the game? Instead keep running from a to b to c and then have some single fight with boss and quest done. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by dfunked on Apr 9, 2023 11:14:22 GMT
Yeah, not at all. It's certainly similar, but feels like someone tried to copy the Arkham combat based on reading a few reviews and never actually playing the games.
It just made me want to play through Asylum again, which I'll probably do next.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Apr 9, 2023 11:17:06 GMT
Re. Dying Light - I actually enjoyed the parkour and running aspect. It's not exactly amazing but it was kind of fun.
Maybe I should just play Mirror's Edge again.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 9, 2023 11:27:10 GMT
Yeah, not at all. It's certainly similar, but feels like someone tried to copy the Arkham combat based on reading a few reviews and never actually playing the games. It just made me want to play through Asylum again, which I'll probably do next. I thought as much because I remember us discussing the game because it was a a tenner at Currys and then someone said it was the same combat at the other ones, and I remember thinking even though I haven't played the game all the videos I've seen have it shown to be quite different with none of that pinging between enemies and the dodge coming across as a very limp slide.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Apr 9, 2023 18:31:54 GMT
Empire total war. I did get it on release and in 2013 I did full campaign. Every few years since then I think I really should play it again. I love the period, the grand map strategy... But I dislike the battles. They are dull. The novelty of them when shogun 1 and medieval 1 were released is gone. When playing it in 2013 after a while I just autsolve all battles cause couldn't really bother with them. So installed, played two turns. Autsolved first battle, won, autosolved second and lost. Yep. Not for me this game and the genre (empire is the last total war game i touched) I have been thinking about getting Empire as I was always curious about how different the battles would be. Not sure if it's worth playing just for that though.
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Post by Quasi on Apr 11, 2023 17:07:48 GMT
ToomuchFluffyIf you just want a taste I'd sooner recommend Napoleon, which immediately made Empire feel like its proof of concept. It's polished to a shine and has actual campaigns; Empire just plants you in 1700 and leaves, feeling shapeless as a result, not to mention overlong. A lot of people thought line warfare was tactically uninteresting, and maybe there's truth in that. But Total War is very much about spectacle, and I loved the spectacle, especially of the naval battles (which are even less tactically interesting than ones on land). I do have a soft spot for Empire, in no small part because it was my first TW and I played the hell out of it. Its huge scope is a liability but also part of the appeal, the way global trade works drives you to keep a strong and active navy in a way that feels organic, and I just prefer its warm and oddly dreamlike feel to that of the cool and melancholic Napoleon. So if you wind up trying and loving Napoleon, it is eventually worth a look.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Apr 11, 2023 18:04:00 GMT
I had heard that Napoleon was supposed to be better than Empire, but people rarely really explain why they are saying that, so my impression was superficial at best.
I'm not even that concerned with battles perhaps not being that interesting tactically, as long as there still is meaningful unit variety. With Medieval it never took that long until battles (mostly) became formulaic and effortless, not least since the AI just wasn't any good in building balanced armies. Perhaps it is more interesting initally, but once the player's generals and unit quality increase a lot of that goes away.
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Post by lukasz on Apr 12, 2023 2:24:05 GMT
Empire total war. I did get it on release and in 2013 I did full campaign. Every few years since then I think I really should play it again. I love the period, the grand map strategy... But I dislike the battles. They are dull. The novelty of them when shogun 1 and medieval 1 were released is gone. When playing it in 2013 after a while I just autsolve all battles cause couldn't really bother with them. So installed, played two turns. Autsolved first battle, won, autosolved second and lost. Yep. Not for me this game and the genre (empire is the last total war game i touched) I have been thinking about getting Empire as I was always curious about how different the battles would be. Not sure if it's worth playing just for that though. Empire did have the feel of you building The Empire. Massive armies with mortars, cannons wrecking the shit out anything which is unlucky to be at the receiving end. Your navy traveling the world securing your trade routes protecting them from pirates and enemy countries And you expanding and developing your lands with new tech and acquisitions. Out of all total wars it is the most Grand. It did become busy work when you have a giant country.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Apr 16, 2023 8:54:17 GMT
I had forgotten about it, but I gave Drox Operative a try some weeks back and ended up not liking it much. At least for me, it loses a lot of what I liked about the other games by Soldak (Depths of Peril, Din's Curse) and Drox is just a bit weird since the space environments don't feel particularly relevant. The recipe of how character building (or in this case ship building) works is still fairly similar, but hybrid classes are gone and the attributes are named differently, yet often fulfill the same functions.
Factions want the player to do quests and they fight each other, but the pacing felt weird to me with lots and lots happening for which there was no context. Part of it is probably just that I'm not used to it, but to me it feels that the developer doesn't have the tech, the aesthetic expertise and so on, to create something that feels good for what it is. I also think that faction mechanics at this scale don't work so well anymore, since in this case it's not people, but rather ships and planets and suspension of disbelief becomes too difficult for me.
I somehow never minded much that his earlier games are clearly creations of a very small company which just isn't much good at graphics, aesthetics and in the sound department. But everything mostly still looked and felt about as you might expect and it probably also helps that "Fantasy ARPG" is just a very familiar concept. Drox clearly builds on what came before and seems stuck between something I liked and something I might have liked. Perhaps it just didn't change enough to accomodate for the new setting and mechanics.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Apr 17, 2023 19:59:26 GMT
Gears Tactics. I do like strategy games but the end boss in this is taking the piss. Waves of fuckers and death from above. Uninstalled. To be fair it was good until then. I generally never complete games with end game boss battles as I don't have the patience or talent to complete them and always find the difficulty curve exponentially rises.
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Post by Duffman5 on Apr 18, 2023 6:28:55 GMT
Gears Tactics. I do like strategy games but the end boss in this is taking the piss. Waves of fuckers and death from above. Uninstalled. To be fair it was good until then. I generally never complete games with end game boss battles as I don't have the patience or talent to complete them and always find the difficulty curve exponentially rises. Hi J as much as this is a dagger in my heart! I understand. I actually had the unfortunate and totally known and random glitch on the Boss where you can't defeat him (look it up it is real) I hate when that happens. I loved everything else about it and for a first effort in changing Gears genre I thought it was excellent. I hope we get a sequel. Also bonus points, we got Sid and he is great to use in Gears 5. I also enjoyed Gears POP.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Apr 18, 2023 7:44:55 GMT
Gears Tactics. I do like strategy games but the end boss in this is taking the piss. Waves of fuckers and death from above. Uninstalled. To be fair it was good until then. I generally never complete games with end game boss battles as I don't have the patience or talent to complete them and always find the difficulty curve exponentially rises. Hi J as much as this is a dagger in my heart! I understand. I actually had the unfortunate and totally known and random glitch on the Boss where you can't defeat him (look it up it is real) I hate when that happens. I loved everything else about it and for a first effort in changing Gears genre I thought it was excellent. I hope we get a sequel. Also bonus points, we got Sid and he is great to use in Gears 5. I also enjoyed Gears POP.
Sorry to hear you had issues with that. As mentioned, it was great up until that point. Even though I couldn't complete it, I do hope they make another as the formula just works - was quite surprised how well it translated to a tactical game.
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Post by Rubicon on Apr 22, 2023 21:03:43 GMT
C&C: Tiberian Sun - Firestorm
I'd actually got to the end of the GDI campaign but the issues I had with the main game proved to much here. The tedious 'stealth' missions with no base return, the space to breathe and build your base is gone with enemy units mindlessly spamming you, which is exacerbated by maps feeling a lot smaller than they were. I'd just had enough.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Apr 23, 2023 9:30:38 GMT
When I last got Tiberian Sun to run (after some messing around), I had similar issues with the campaign. Skirmish mode is usually easier to get into. Not least since there are no requirements or special conditions to be met or dealt with.
I think I played through a good few of the GDI missions many years back and I remember running around with a huge number of Titans on some map as well as somehow making use of Orca Bombers at some point. But like so many RTS campaigns I never finished it.
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Post by lukasz on Apr 24, 2023 1:44:58 GMT
I installed from orign the game and my old campaign save is still there. Love the cloud system.
Mission where I saved the game and didn't play further.
Stealth one where you have to extract some guy from nod facility. Yep. I guess that's why I haven't played it in almost a decade.
Those were not fun.
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Post by RadicalRex on Apr 30, 2023 16:03:34 GMT
Breathedge (currently free on EGS)
I was looking forward to something in space with zero grav etc., sadly this doesn't seem to exciting. The biggest problem is the humour though, it's some of the laziest throwaway humour I've seen in a game. Imagine you had to write everything for a game and every line has to be funny, and every time you take the first stupid thought that comes to your mind within 3 seconds, and you're like "that'll do" and put it in. That's how everything feels like.
It also seems to think it's edgy or something, or maybe it doesn't? I don't even know if it is actually trying anything. Maybe that's the joke? All I know is it's very unfunny and grating. Uninstalled.
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Post by harrypalmer on May 2, 2023 9:36:55 GMT
Undertale
Is it possible to love a game but still want to ditch it? Turns out the answer is yes!
I do absolutely love this, and it's possible to complete it in under 5 hours, so I feel doubly shitty, but it got to a point where I just wasn't enjoying it anymore, so I watched the ending on YouTube instead!
I admire it, and I think if I had more time I'd absolutely stick with it, it's funny and original, like Horace but an RPG. Ultimately though the actual gameplay is quite dull and annoying!
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Post by RadicalRex on May 4, 2023 14:38:06 GMT
Lure of the Temptress Space Quest V Beneath a Steel Sky The Dig Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Felt like playing some DOS point'n'click adventures again, but pretty soon I ran into what I hate so much about them again. 10% of the time I try to solve something in a way that seems to make sense, 20% of the time trying things that don't make sense to me but are vaguely, tangentially related to what I hope is the way forward, and 70% of the time is spent mindlessly going everywhere using everything with everything.
It's such a frustrating, unenjoyable gameplay loop I just can't go on. Shame because some of these games are very appealing, especially Star Trek. And it was just like this back in the 90s when I played Monkey Island, Sam & Max and all that. I believe the only game of this type I've ever finished without looking up solutions was Fate of Atlantis.
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Post by deekyfun on May 4, 2023 17:09:40 GMT
Lure of the Temptress Space Quest V Beneath a Steel Sky The Dig Star Trek 25th Anniversary Felt like playing some DOS point'n'click adventures again, but pretty soon I ran into what I hate so much about them again. 10% of the time I try to solve something in a way that seems to make sense, 20% of the time trying things that don't make sense to me but are vaguely, tangentially related to what I hope is the way forward, and 70% of the time is spent mindlessly going everywhere using everything with everything. It's such a frustrating, unenjoyable gameplay loop I just can't go on. Shame because some of these games are very appealing, especially Star Trek. And it was just like this back in the 90s when I played Monkey Island, Sam & Max and all that. I believe the only game of this type I've ever finished without looking up solutions was Fate of Atlantis. It's a shame, but there really is no way around this - you just have to either accept that for a portion of most point and clicks, you're going to be stuck in that aimless funk for a bit, or not mind reaching for a guide. And since its such an individual thing what will stump someone, its hard to know which particular games to recommend as something that will be at that sweet spot for problem solving. That being said, I still love them. I may just be a sucker for that particular brand of frustration.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on May 4, 2023 17:17:50 GMT
At the moment I think I might be fucking The Ascent off. Even with a load of materials from a trainer so that all my weapons are maxed the enemies are just bullet sponges. Combine that with loads of them on-screen and even ones off-screen hitting you constantly unless you're pretty much perma-dodging it's become less fun.
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