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Post by sport✅ on Feb 24, 2022 9:33:53 GMT
Relax guys, I'm pretty the time travelers will be sent soon to assassinate baby Putin.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 24, 2022 9:35:42 GMT
Whilst the US response might be a bit lukewarm, can you imagine Trump's response? No need to imagine
Trump praises ‘genius’ Putin for moving troops to eastern Ukraine
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 24, 2022 9:41:36 GMT
Fox News loves Putin. The stuff they’re putting out would have got them arrested for treason in the 80s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 9:42:39 GMT
Why do the republicans have such a hard on for Putin? Is it just because he doesn't like the gays?
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Post by Sarfrin on Feb 24, 2022 9:45:44 GMT
They want to be dictators too.
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Post by X201 on Feb 24, 2022 9:45:46 GMT
I'd kick Russia out of the UN. Then we could take more concrete action without the threat of a Russian veto. That would require Russia to vote to expel itself. The rules don't allow for kicking anyone out without a vote
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Feb 24, 2022 9:46:35 GMT
I'd kick Russia out of the UN. Then we could take more concrete action without the threat of a Russian veto. That would require Russia to vote to expel itself. Fuck it - just show them the door. |
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Post by Dgzter on Feb 24, 2022 9:46:40 GMT
Energy security and the influence of Russian financing in western political institutions are genuinely massive, long-term issues that need to be resolved. Not even sure how you begin to go about unpicking that at this juncture, especially as so many of our current generation of politicians are up to their neck in it.
But at the very least the UK needs to be freezing assets, revoking visas/banning travel, sanctioning the largest banks, and suspending share trading for Kremlin-linked companies on the LSE. Removal from SWIFT is also surely something that needs to happen, but who ultimately makes the call on that?
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Post by Immaterial on Feb 24, 2022 9:47:23 GMT
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Feb 24, 2022 9:53:49 GMT
Why do the republicans have such a hard on for Putin? Is it just because he doesn't like the gays? They are funded by Russia, which launders money into the US through the Republican party. |
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Post by スコットランド on Feb 24, 2022 9:56:35 GMT
"It's not my job to know what to do, I'm just here to continually shout they're not doing enough without offering any suggestions of my own" Except that I posted an article from the Guardian with suggestions on how more effectively to put pressure on Putin. |
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Post by MysteryLamb on Feb 24, 2022 9:59:39 GMT
Why the hell was Russia Today ever allowed to broadcast in the UK? Their headline? "Special Operation" taken straight from Putin's surreal speech.
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Post by simple on Feb 24, 2022 10:02:39 GMT
Flipping heck. We’ll be getting reruns of Threads and When The Wind Blows next |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 24, 2022 10:06:19 GMT
Has anybody thought of banning Elden Ring from Russia? That might work.
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Post by dogbot on Feb 24, 2022 10:07:21 GMT
Why the hell was Russia Today ever allowed to broadcast in the UK? Their headline? "Special Operation" taken straight from Putin's surreal speech. It begins with M and ends with Y. |
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Feb 24, 2022 10:07:45 GMT
Why do the republicans have such a hard on for Putin? Is it just because he doesn't like the gays? They are funded by Russia, which launders money into the US through the Republican party. It’s going to interesting to see how and if republican voters square off their patriotism with what’s happening. They could ‘plausibly deny’ all the other shit that has gone on, but defending and supporting Russia now and seeing their heroes trump and Fox News do it, going to cause a few headaches. But I suspect because Russia hates gays and is not woke everything is ok. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Feb 24, 2022 10:08:14 GMT
I'm still confused about how making it less convenient for them to travel around the West Midlands by taking away their SWIFT cards will make much difference
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Post by dogbot on Feb 24, 2022 10:11:06 GMT
They are funded by Russia, which launders money into the US through the Republican party. It’s going to interesting to see how and if republican voters square off their patriotism with what’s happening. They could ‘plausibly deny’ all the other shit that has gone on, but defending and supporting Russia now and seeing their heroes trump and Fox News do it, going to cause a few headaches. But I suspect because Russia hates gays and is not woke everything is ok. The thing is, the days of HUAC, McCarthy and anti-Commie witchhunts are a long time ago and an awful lot (if any) of the current republican voters don't remember them. They just know what Fox and their blog/pod talking heads tell them, which is that Dems are weak, Trump is strong and Trump loves Putin. Therefore, Russia must be good, because their God cannot be wrong. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 24, 2022 10:12:12 GMT
You spelt MONEY wrong
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Feb 24, 2022 10:12:17 GMT
SWIFT isn’t just a card, it’s an online banking payment and transfer system. Removing it from Russia would effectively lock them out of the modern banking system.
…except it won’t, of course. They will use proxies, and if my years in banking taught me anything it’s that the banks will fall over themselves to help them.
Yaaay capitalism.
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Feb 24, 2022 10:17:24 GMT
Why do the republicans have such a hard on for Putin? Is it just because he doesn't like the gays? They are funded by Russia, which launders money into the US through the Republican party. That would explain why the Swedish nationalist party is so enamoured with him as well. |
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Post by dogbot on Feb 24, 2022 10:19:37 GMT
Money is what motivates the Repub politicos. The voters just do what they're told. -- Meanwhile, apart from the the missile strikes, the Ukrainians are reporting that the advances in Donestk and Luhansk have been repelled, Shachstya and Mariupol have been held and that the incursions from Belarus and Crimea are small (3 or 4 tanks and a small number of troops). Almost as if it's a feint, to test the response levels and what the West will do. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 10:28:38 GMT
Belarus playing the part of the bully's cowardly pal Bela "The Hamster" Rus |
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Post by unrealkilla on Feb 24, 2022 10:30:00 GMT
As if we needed another thing to be worried about - whatever happens in the Ukraine now, Russia becomes isolated from the West as a result of this and is driven into close partnership with China. We're then looking at an enemy of overwhelming military and contiguous geographical size, and plenty of money and domestic energy resource and business might. And tied in to supporting the insanity of North Korea, through China.
If we were playing Risk it'd be time for the other players to have an emergency secret meeting in the kitchen.
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Post by Danno on Feb 24, 2022 10:32:17 GMT
"Back in the Commons Angela Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, has just asked Steve Barclay, the PM’s chief of staff, about reports that Russian oligarchs have been lobbying the Foreign Office to ensure they are not covered by sanctions. She asked him for an assurance that none of these people were people who have donated to the Conservative party.
Barclay would not answer directly. He just said that people allowed to vote in the UK are allowed to donate to political parties, and he said that it was important to remember that the donors Rayner was referring to were British citizens."
Huh, weird how that British Citizenship thing works. Let's ask Shamima Begum if she ever donated to the Tory party.
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Post by Dgzter on Feb 24, 2022 10:33:35 GMT
On a somewhat lighter note, the effects of Russia's actions in terms of domestic French politics, with the looming election, is fucking hilarious. Almost every challenger to Macron on both the ultra-nationalist right (Le Pen, Zemmour, Fillon) and hard anti-capitalist left (Melenchon) having to either epicly row back their previously open admiration of Putin, or have refused to be interviewed or answer any questions in relation to their own Kremlin-backed funding.
Macron hasn't even technically announced yet, and he's already looking unassailable. The racist, xenophobic, and anti-EU right, in particular, has absolutely fucked themselves.
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Post by Psychotext on Feb 24, 2022 10:37:36 GMT
Barclay would not answer directly. He just said that people allowed to vote in the UK are allowed to donate to political parties, and he said that it was important to remember that the donors Rayner was referring to were British citizens." Huh, weird how that British Citizenship thing works. Let's ask Shamima Begum if she ever donated to the Tory party. Makes me fucking angry that no-one seems to call these cunts on the fact that those donors are only British citizens because THEY FUCKING BOUGHT THE PRIVILEGE. Corrupt to the fucking core. |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Feb 24, 2022 10:44:39 GMT
Macron hasn't even technically announced yet, and he's already looking unassailable. The racist, xenophobic, and anti-EU right, in particular, has absolutely fucked themselves. I don't think their voter base is willing to admit they've made a mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but logical thinking isn't their strongest suit. |
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Post by snackplissken on Feb 24, 2022 10:48:04 GMT
As if we needed another thing to be worried about - whatever happens in the Ukraine now, Russia becomes isolated from the West as a result of this and is driven into close partnership with China. We're then looking at an enemy of overwhelming military and contiguous geographical size, and plenty of money and domestic energy resource and business might. And tied in to supporting the insanity of North Korea, through China. If we were playing Risk it'd be time for the other players to have an emergency secret meeting in the kitchen. Best get a head start learning Russian. |
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Post by dogbot on Feb 24, 2022 10:49:30 GMT
It's alright, everyone. Liz Truss has summoned the Russian ambassador to explain himself.
I feel safer already.
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