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Post by wunty on Oct 11, 2022 9:17:30 GMT
18 days and 3 weekends down now and finding it gets much easier. Haven't ventured to a pub yet mind you, which I'm sure will be the real test. I think one of witchking's old posts is partially responsible for this effort, which will probably be the first time in my adult life I've gone a month without drinking. Just the mention of alcohol as a poison (if I'm even remembering correctly) stuck with me. I'm still only a short way into reading 'this naked mind', but can definitely relate to that comment a lot more now, and have started really believing that rather than taking the information on and shoving it to the back of my mind somewhere. Well done man. I'm up to three months now (I stopped at Easter but had a relapse on my hols at the start of June) and yes, it very much gets easier. There are still dips that happen and there are a few times I've very nearly drank (finally giving on on the aforementioned hols - and it wasn't a good experience), but all in all yes, you can get there. The important thing is if you do have a relapse, just accept it, and then carry on from there. It can and quite often does happen, particularly if - like me (and you from the sounds of things) - booze has been a near constant feature of every weekend in your adult life.
The funny thing is that I thought I'd feel better mentally and physically for it and in all honesty I don't think I do, but I must do. Mind you, not having those horrible floaty dirgy next days after a night drinking is a fucking boost for a start.
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Post by wunty on Oct 11, 2022 10:57:58 GMT
Me and the wife have a Halloween party in a town 16 miles away in a few weeks. I'm quite excited at the prospect of going, having a nice time, leaving at a sensible hour and driving back. The alternative would be to get the train, spend a fortune on booze, feel like shit, either try and catch the last train home or spend the night at someone's house and not get back til the next day, feeling shit.
I mean. How amazing is that. Sure, typing it out makes me feel old and boring but by god I'll take it.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 11, 2022 11:19:11 GMT
I just ignore do's like that anyway
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Post by wunty on Oct 11, 2022 11:29:03 GMT
Just grab a handful of sausage rolls and gtfo.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 11, 2022 11:30:22 GMT
Suppose it's ok if your colleagues are ok. Mine are all twats, so I just come up with a random excuse
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Post by dfunked on Oct 11, 2022 12:23:17 GMT
Sleeping has definitely been better for me. Before I'd drink at the weekends and have poor quality drunken sleep, then sleep like shit for the first few sober days of the week, before starting to sleep OK by Wed/Thu just in time to repeat the cycle all over again...
Health-wise I had an immediate change in acid reflux/heartburn and mental health has definitely improved. I'd been having anxiety attacks before which seem to have disappeared now.
And yeah, not starting the week or wasting weekends with a nasty hangover is bloody great!
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Post by wunty on Oct 11, 2022 12:58:10 GMT
Crikey so did I. Really bad sometimes. And really terrible jobbys.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Oct 11, 2022 13:16:56 GMT
I'm definitely liking the lack of hangovers at work. Still not sure I'm going to quit entirely but I'm looking to limit drinking to social occasions that fall on non-work nights, that take place outside the house. Given how empty my life is that will take care of 85% of my drinking It's a bit weird, in some ways, back in my twenties and early thirties I was living with and hanging out with some heavy drinking types, but I'd drink only occasionally. But over the years but intake slowly increased and and semblance of control went out the window during lockdown. Now many of those previous heavy drinkers, judging by Facebook (which is the only contact I really have with most people from my past) are pretty sober, but I have been drinking most days. Just strange how we ended up on opposite paths.
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Post by wunty on Oct 11, 2022 14:35:20 GMT
Thye've probably had to go sober if they caned it pretty hard. Those guys are always (well, not always but you get the idea) first to give it up. It's the likes of you, and I, that end up struggling as it has been a gradual build up over the years and we've integrated it into our lifestyle.
Like when I gave up smoking years ago. Folk I knew that hit it harder than me gave up way before I did, but because mine was a lesser habit it took me longer as I didn't really feel like was taking a massive toll on me.
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Post by minimatt on Oct 12, 2022 9:05:51 GMT
...that end up struggling as it has been a gradual build up over the years and we've integrated it into our lifestyle zoe can't remember surname at the Guardian did a piece a year or so back about how it's basically all our* generation's fault - that gen X & Xennials spent the 90s and early noughties smashed out of our tiny little trees and we kinda just made it "respectable" as we got older, drinking at home doesn't feel as hedonistic as bopping to techno in a german nightclub
* "our" meaning I'm assuming everyone else is just like me, minimatt the egotistical twat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 9:29:32 GMT
Sank three Old Fashioneds last night and I feel like shit today. Need to knock that on the head now I'm getting old, apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 20:37:55 GMT
Just the four tonight after an incredibly stressful day and evening
Will surely bode well for tomorrow
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 8:26:07 GMT
I’ve not troubled this thread before, either here or at the old place, IIRC, but, go on…
I’ve never been a heavy drinker in the way some are. I never liked the “going out to get drunk” thing, even as a motorbiking teenager in a rock band. I do seem to have a natural switch in my head that says, “that’s enough now.”
But, honestly, I think it’s crept up on me a bit. I’m gluten-free now, so beer’s really off-limits in any meaningful way, but my downfall has become wine, whisky, rum, etc., especially while cooking.
Like many, I think it escalated during lockdown.
I have a “days since gluten” counter on my phone (114 today, fact fans), and have added a “days since alcohol” one just before typing this. It displays “12” at the time of writing: I’m fairly sure my last bottle of wine was finished on Sunday 2 October.
I need to mention it to Mrs. M. It’s not quite as often these days that it’s me that buys the bottle: she’ll get me one when she picks up her cigarettes now and then. Perhaps partly to make herself feel less guilty!
My drinking didn’t feel “out of control”, but I’ve had a couple of accidents while cooking, which may have been caused by drink, and I know it slightly changes my temperament in a way I’m not sure I like.
One earlier post here really struck home: I KNOW I’ve topped up a whisky bottle with water once or twice, to make it look like I’ve had less.
The main thing is, I suppose, I tell myself I’ll lay off it for a bit, and I can – hence the twelve days – but, as soon as it’s in the house, I’m more tempted than I want to be. Shoving the wine to the back of the cupboard inevitably results in it being retrieved, usually within hours.
It’s not like me to be quite so open about things as this.
Am I doing the right thing, laying off for a bit?
Thanks for reading, friends.
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Post by dfunked on Oct 15, 2022 9:12:36 GMT
It's hard to take that first step and admit you might have a problem. If you even have to ask I'd say you're definitely doing the right thing... Just aim for the rest of the month and re-evaluate. Might be worth grabbing a copy of this naked mind, as I've found that helped me massively come to terms with the part alcohol played in my life.
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 9:16:31 GMT
dfunked Cheers my friend – I was definitely expecting the "if you're asking the question, you already know the answer" matter to come up, as it's a phrase that's been buzzing around my head for months. I'll look into that book. I appreciate it. Again: thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 12:37:36 GMT
Soooo I left the work do last night and then got dragged back out by me bird. Who didn't want me to stop at hers, a mere 10 minutes walk from town. Put me in a bad mood.
Anyway, I had at least one too many and wound up nearly getting in a fight with a group of lads that said something I interpreted as threatening to her by her flat when I walked her home.
Feel like shit today for a host of reasons, and the hangover isn't helping. Making bolognese and drinking Coke Zero while trying to chill out.
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 13:11:01 GMT
quitsking There’s wisdom in your words there. It’s easy to believe there’s not a problem if you’re not as “bad” as someone else, I suppose, but, yes: if I’ve been tempted to restrict it or even hide it, as discussed, then I guess I know it’s something I’d be better off without. Thanks
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 14:32:27 GMT
EMarkMRead your original post. Is there a problem then? I.e., is the drinking causing a specific problem?
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 14:45:35 GMT
quadfather I feel, specifically: A. I know that, whilst I can not have anything for weeks, if it’s there, I will get through it even if I tell myself not to. B. I get clumsy after a few, and have family to look after. C. My blood pressure is still way too high. D. It’s money I’d rather not spend. E. When I’ve not had anything for a while, as right now, I certainly don’t miss the headaches and general lethargy!
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 14:54:18 GMT
Sounds straightforward to me.
The family one sticks out a bit, but the rest are taking the rough with the smooth imo
Also, reading this thread makes it difficult not to compare oneselfs intake to everyone else. That's why I see if there's an actual problem first or if it's a lifestyle that works regardless of intake(s)
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 14:55:21 GMT
Stare into the abyss, etc
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 15:00:07 GMT
The family one, just to be clear: I’m usually the driver, wherever we’re going, and NEVER drink and drive, so for drinking to increase further, if that’s what’s gradually happening, would become restrictive.
Also, if I can burn myself or drop something while cooking, how long before it unfortunately affects someone else, if you see what I mean?
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 15:03:01 GMT
Hm yeah. I do the cooking one now and again. But I live alone so that's slightly different. You'll have to put a child gate up Well, you've probably sown the seed even more now by writing it down. I bet next time you're cooking with a drink, you'll remember reading this post
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 15:04:36 GMT
On the other hand, what do you think Keith Floyd would say if he saw your post?
That's what I mean about judging yourself incorrectly
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 15:07:33 GMT
On the other hand, what do you think Keith Floyd would say if he saw your post? That's what I mean about judging yourself incorrectly I know: I already feel I’m letting him down terribly! Thanks, my friend. I think I’ll try to stay off it for a bit now, and let the Mrs. know not to grab me anything. Thanks again, everyone. And good luck to us all.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 15:09:14 GMT
Just take it easy
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 15:16:07 GMT
Just take it easy You too, in the wider sense of the phrase
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Post by quadfather on Oct 15, 2022 15:16:53 GMT
Least the food poisoning is easing up
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 15, 2022 15:53:47 GMT
Huzzah!
(Boilk)
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Post by EMarkM on Oct 25, 2022 8:49:23 GMT
I know I'm the newbie in the thread, and therefore, no doubt, the twatty evangelist, but how's everyone doing?
Just over three weeks without any alcohol at all here, and I honestly feel good about it.
There have been a few evenings where I KNOW drinking would have made things worse all 'round – for example, some ongoing sensitive topics concerning the extended family – so I'm definitely happy to have had a clear head.
Between being AF and GF, I already feel ten times fitter and more energetic, so, hooray!
Hope all are well.
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