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Post by andytheaverage on Mar 23, 2022 10:36:16 GMT
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 23, 2022 13:09:01 GMT
I don't get parkruns at all. Why the hell would you want to drive to a packed park and do a shitty boring few laps through a crowded area when you could just pop your trainers on and head out your door yourself.
Glad to see the standard of subscriber articles hasn't dipped. What exactly does that website cover any more as it sure as fuck isn't video games.
I don't know what a parkrun is but I'm guessing there's a social element to it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 13:16:45 GMT
There's one that takes place right beside where I take the boy rowing on a Saturday morning and none of the cunts at that one seem to talk to each other much.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 23, 2022 13:31:02 GMT
Think there's PB comparisons etc too. Always seems quite social at my local one too (fuck that, I'm in the gym next to the park)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 13:37:01 GMT
Suppose I just like having conversations with people when I'm not red in the face, spitting and sweating everywhere.
Goes for sex as well as running.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 23, 2022 14:25:00 GMT
Mrs Wunty is a lucky, lucky, lucky woman.
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Post by gray on Mar 23, 2022 16:01:39 GMT
Couch to Curtains
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Post by qwerty9999 on Mar 24, 2022 9:53:06 GMT
I think he used to be the editor of Edge magazine at one point... Not that I read Edge anymore. For me, print hasn't been a "thing" for nearly a decade.
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Post by harrypalmer on Mar 24, 2022 9:57:44 GMT
Get you. Do you have a clapper for your lamps too?
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Post by qwerty9999 on Mar 24, 2022 9:59:21 GMT
If I was a former mod I’d probably give back my free premium access tbh It's almost not worth the "paper" it's printed on. I wonder how many subscribers Eurogamer has... You'd think that if there were 100 subscribers, at £4 a month, that would translate to at least 1 REALLY good feature every month. Almost like a "world exclusive". With £400, you could hire a really good journalist and get them to go and speak to a top gaming person / company. Obviously, I can imagine Eurogamer having more than 100 subscribers. So with that sort of money, they should be able to generate a few high calibre exclusives that do manage to get world renown.
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Post by qwerty9999 on Mar 24, 2022 10:01:50 GMT
This article on the rise and fall of Ken Kutaragi is probably my most referred-to gaming industry article. Maybe in another fifteen years they’ll come full circle and Eurogamer will write a second useful article. www.eurogamer.net/articles/farewell-father-articleRob Fahey is a good writer... I think he's one of the top guys over at GamesIndustry.Biz...
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Post by EMarkM on Mar 24, 2022 10:11:20 GMT
Naturally, I’m not familiar with EG’s internal accounts and financial status, but I know what I charge, and they could get a very good quality article out of me, well-researched and styled to taste, for a couple of hundred quid.
Shrug.
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 24, 2022 10:13:16 GMT
Naturally, I’m not familiar with EG’s internal accounts and financial status, but I know what I charge, and they could get a very good quality article out of me, well-researched and styled to taste, for a couple of hundred quid. Shrug. You don't even know to put a "/" before "shrug". /Rollseyes.
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Post by EMarkM on Mar 24, 2022 10:13:42 GMT
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Mar 24, 2022 10:24:20 GMT
I think if there was sufficient demand for well-researched, long form journalism (ie. good enough that people are willing to pay for it), more of it would be produced.
But I'm not at all convinced that there is demand for it. If everyone hated the vapid thinkpieces we've gotten instead, they wouldn't keep writing them... right?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 24, 2022 10:25:32 GMT
He's got you there. Why would EG want to look at you now???
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 24, 2022 10:28:16 GMT
Why pay a couple of hundred for an article when you can copy and paste a press release then knock out a handful of words x 10 articles for £15 an hour?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 24, 2022 10:29:59 GMT
I think if there was sufficient demand for well-researched, long form journalism (ie. good enough that people are willing to pay for it), more of it would be produced. But I'm not at all convinced that there is demand for it. If everyone hated the vapid thinkpieces we've gotten instead, they wouldn't keep writing them... right? I think there's a difference between long form pieces how game development goes down or the history of a franchise to pieces about making a game based around woodwork or very recently pieces about how many open worldgames are based around imperialism, the patriarchy and elements of white privilege.
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 24, 2022 10:31:24 GMT
I’m sure MrTom has a list.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Mar 24, 2022 10:54:01 GMT
I think if there was sufficient demand for well-researched, long form journalism (ie. good enough that people are willing to pay for it), more of it would be produced. But I'm not at all convinced that there is demand for it. If everyone hated the vapid thinkpieces we've gotten instead, they wouldn't keep writing them... right? I think there's a difference between long form pieces how game development goes down or the history of a franchise to pieces about making a game based around woodwork or very recently pieces about how many open worldgames are based around imperialism, the patriarchy and elements of white privilege. Sure, but there must be some demand for it, right? "Clickbait" is a bit of a dirty word, but people want to write articles that get clicked on! And someone has to be clicking on these things, out of hatred or morbid curiosity if nothing else.
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Post by cubby on Mar 24, 2022 10:54:53 GMT
There's a reason TL:DR is a thing.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 24, 2022 10:55:25 GMT
Yeah, probably. Works for Kotaku I guess.
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 24, 2022 13:52:39 GMT
I think if there was sufficient demand for well-researched, long form journalism (ie. good enough that people are willing to pay for it), more of it would be produced. But I'm not at all convinced that there is demand for it. If everyone hated the vapid thinkpieces we've gotten instead, they wouldn't keep writing them... right? I think there's a difference between long form pieces how game development goes down or the history of a franchise to pieces about making a game based around woodwork or very recently pieces about how many open worldgames are based around imperialism, the patriarchy and elements of white privilege. RPS historically managed a mix of both of those, some for supporters only and some not. Not currently a sub so don't know if Roger Reedpop has changed that mix but one of their most popular freelancers (Sin Vega,) now has a fair amount of their work behind the paywall.
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Post by qwerty9999 on Mar 24, 2022 14:14:25 GMT
I think there's a difference between long form pieces how game development goes down or the history of a franchise to pieces about making a game based around woodwork or very recently pieces about how many open worldgames are based around imperialism, the patriarchy and elements of white privilege. RPS historically managed a mix of both of those, some for supporters only and some not. Not currently a sub so don't know if Roger Reedpop has changed that mix but one of their most popular freelancers (Sin Vega,) now has a fair amount of their work behind the paywall. I'd not heard of Sin Vega... Maybe because I don't actually visit RPS. Judging by the photo contained in the following link, she reminds me of Ellie Gibson (ex Eurogamer). www.rockpapershotgun.com/welcome-sin-vega-rpss-newest-staff-writer
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Post by dfunked on Mar 24, 2022 14:16:02 GMT
She certainly has that middle aged mum look nailed.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 24, 2022 14:19:05 GMT
Sin Vega, she's trans no? Wasn't she let go in the culling of writers not long ago or something?
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Post by スコットランド on Mar 24, 2022 14:19:32 GMT
Sounds like a sci-fi character.
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Post by qwerty9999 on Mar 24, 2022 14:19:43 GMT
I think if there was sufficient demand for well-researched, long form journalism (ie. good enough that people are willing to pay for it), more of it would be produced. But I'm not at all convinced that there is demand for it. If everyone hated the vapid thinkpieces we've gotten instead, they wouldn't keep writing them... right? I think there's a difference between long form pieces how game development goes down or the history of a franchise to pieces about making a game based around woodwork or very recently pieces about how many open worldgames are based around imperialism, the patriarchy and elements of white privilege. I like articles on game development. I don't really like articles on white privilege. I also don't really like Eurogamer's focus on wanting to write articles on "There should be a game that based on...". It's like... If you think there should be a game that's based on gardening, then just hire a few developers from India. And then just have a link that points to the Steam store where people can buy that game you've released on gardening. EDIT: I just realised... If Eurogamer hires developers from India, they essentially take steps to mitigate "white privilege" within the industry. Less talking... More walking... Speaking of which... did Eurogamer take steps to hire a few "non-white" interns? They said they were looking into paid internships that would help the "less privileged and marginalised". Although... honestly? If someone wants to become a journalist... Then all they need to do is set up a blog / website. After all, WordPress.com allows a budding journalist to set up a blog for free. Where there's a will... There's a way.
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 24, 2022 14:56:02 GMT
Sin Vega, she's trans no? Wasn't she let go in the culling of writers not long ago or something? She was let go as a full time writer but the uproar had them bring her back freelance almost straight away. She does a very good in depth column on more hardcore strategy games as well as occasional columns on all sorts of things.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 24, 2022 14:59:56 GMT
Shinji is still at gi.biz, well I never.
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