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Post by Dougs on Mar 13, 2023 8:13:59 GMT
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Post by geefe on Mar 13, 2023 8:21:14 GMT
Christ...Jamie Lee Curtis winning is quite the choice over Kerry Condon.
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 13, 2023 8:29:55 GMT
Surprised by the outcome. I really expected Banshees was going to win quite a bit, even though I thought others were more deserving. Happy with the picks though. Only switches I would probably make are Austin Butler for best actor (not actually seen The Whale) and I would give best visual effects to Top Gun instead of Avatar.
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Post by kingbambino on Mar 13, 2023 8:31:23 GMT
Yeah agree I’m surprised Butler didn’t get it
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Mar 13, 2023 8:35:34 GMT
I'm happy that EEAAO won, but it feels a bit like your grandad telling you about a funny meme he saw. Not wrong exactly, just... weird.
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Post by Gruf on Mar 13, 2023 8:51:24 GMT
Watched Banshees last night, good film, beautifully shot, but didn't blow my socks off. I said here after watching that Michelle Yeoh deserved awards, her performance is the one that has stuck with me the longest. Didn't expect the film to clean up though, good stuff.
We all know RRR was robbed though, one measly Oscar
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Post by Tomo on Mar 13, 2023 9:02:01 GMT
Weak Oscars year imo. I'm glad a film like Everything - dildofingers ffs - can win Oscars, but it's not an amazing film. I think Hollywood is still hungover from the pandemic tbh.
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Post by myk on Mar 13, 2023 9:03:59 GMT
I'm glad EEAAO won because it shows you can do something wacky and out there well and win awards. Even if it is a bit of a marmite film, I think everyone would like to see more writers and directors push those kind of creative limits rather than yet another moody character study.
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Post by geefe on Mar 13, 2023 9:06:21 GMT
RRR not winning best everything is a fucking travesty
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Post by Tomo on Mar 13, 2023 9:08:25 GMT
Quite interesting looking over the Best Picture wins from last decade or so. Some absolute shite and a lot that are not going to go down as classics. Look at this list going back to 2010:
Everything Everywhere CODA Nomadland Parasite Green Book The Shape of Water Moonlight Spotlight Birdman 12 Years a Slave Argo The Artist The King's Speech
I'd say 12 Years a Slave can have classic status from those and possibly Moonlight and Parasite. Shape of Water if I'm being very generous. The rest... Fine at most, Green Book at worst.
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Post by Tomo on Mar 13, 2023 9:10:17 GMT
Inception got beaten by The King's Speech. Fucken helllll
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Post by Tomo on Mar 13, 2023 9:11:51 GMT
2013 was a ridiculous year... 12 Years, Gravity, Her, Dallas Buyers, Wolf of Wall Street. Wow.
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Post by britesparc on Mar 13, 2023 9:37:07 GMT
I haven't seen Banshees yet, to my shame, but the only film I saw from this crop of Oscars that was better than EEAAO was The Fabelmans. However I think Spielberg is probably doing alright so I'm super chuffed for the Everything crowd.
It was a good year I thought. Obviously everyone's gonna have their own favourites that were passed over, or really dislike one winner or the other, but in general I thought it was a lot of crowd-pleasing choices and from what I've seen of it mostly a decently-run show.
Hoping James Mangold has time now to CGI Ke Huy Quan into The Dial of Destiny.
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Post by Gruf on Mar 13, 2023 9:37:14 GMT
Everything Everywhere CODA Nomadland Parasite Green Book The Shape of Water Moonlight Spotlight Birdman 12 Years a Slave Argo The Artist The King's Speech Motley bunch, EEAAO, Parasite out of that lot, deserving for me, I liked Kings Speech, but the rest... Not been inclined to watch a few of them TBH
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Mar 13, 2023 9:38:29 GMT
Inception got beaten by The King's Speech. Fucken helllll
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Post by britesparc on Mar 13, 2023 9:42:52 GMT
I think it's a decent list. Oscars usually go to a film that's pretty decent but overlook better, quirkier films; Everything Everywhere is one of the times a weirdo movie actually won, and that's terrific. I'd say the same for Birdman and Shape of Water, both of which I absolutely adore. Then you've got a few that, like I say, are decent enough - Argo, The Artist, The King's Speech - and then the ones that are just a strange choice where you feel like maybe the vote got split that year and this other film managed to sneak through.
I think Birdman was the last time the film I actually thought was best of the year won Best Picture; before that it was probably Return of the King, and before that probably Schindler's List.
Inception is obviously miles better than King's Speech but an action-oriented sci-fi blockbuster was never really going to win. I might be wrong but I think EEAAO is the first film that's won Best Picture which could actually be classed as sci-fi.
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Post by geefe on Mar 13, 2023 10:01:03 GMT
Birdman is legit good and was fairly worthy. Yes it's a bit "woe is me" actor shit that Hollywood loves but the cast work well with it.
Spotlight was powerful but forgettable. King's Speech was proper Oscar bait. Enjoyable but exactly the kind of shite that won in the 80s. Same for Argo.
The Artist was a great winner, too. Should have won best pic for the sound design alone.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 13, 2023 10:18:43 GMT
I think Birdman was the last time the film I actually thought was best of the year won Best Picture; before that it was probably Return of the King, and before that probably Schindler's List. I'm probably misremembering and should probably fact check before I waffle shit, but wasn't that the same year as Nightcrawler and Whiplash? Three very solid films imo and hard to pick between them (Nightcrawler would edge it for me)
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Post by Gruf on Mar 13, 2023 10:21:20 GMT
Yeah Whiplash, now your talking, really "enjoyed" Nightcrawler but never on the radar for an Oscar.
Never got round to Birdman, sounds like I need to.
Green book had a Oscar worthy performance by Viggo, but the film itself, it's Hollywood ending dragged it down
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Post by geefe on Mar 13, 2023 10:22:50 GMT
Nightcrawler almost got the Drive treatment. But yes, Birdman, Nightcrawler and Whiplash all came out around the same time and are great.
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Post by britesparc on Mar 13, 2023 10:24:07 GMT
I definitely remember it being a strong year and I didn't expect it to win. And I'm also aware that it just suits my taste - I like tortured-artist, meta-narrative stuff. One of my favourite things about it is Ed Norton basically sending up his image as a super-committed persona who dominates and takes over everything he's in.
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Post by RumMonkey on Mar 13, 2023 11:44:38 GMT
Quite interesting looking over the Best Picture wins from last decade or so. Some absolute shite and a lot that are not going to go down as classics. Look at this list going back to 2010: Everything Everywhere CODA Nomadland Parasite Green Book The Shape of Water Moonlight Spotlight Birdman 12 Years a Slave Argo The Artist The King's Speech I'd say 12 Years a Slave can have classic status from those and possibly Moonlight and Parasite. Shape of Water if I'm being very generous. The rest... Fine at most, Green Book at worst. 12 Years is just your standard Oscar bait, wasn't anything special about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2023 11:46:31 GMT
Argo is the strangest one on there for me.
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 13, 2023 12:10:02 GMT
Green Book is probably the weakest on the list. Being the same year as BlacKkKlansman made it not just a weird pick, but also an insulting one (directors/actors getting pissed at losing is normally embarrassing, but is completely justified for Spike Lee).
Birdman was good, but felt the technical achievement made it stand out more than the film itself. I would have gone with Whiplash for that one.
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Post by kingbambino on Mar 13, 2023 14:08:38 GMT
Quite interesting looking over the Best Picture wins from last decade or so. Some absolute shite and a lot that are not going to go down as classics. Look at this list going back to 2010: Everything Everywhere CODA Nomadland Parasite Green Book The Shape of Water Moonlight Spotlight Birdman 12 Years a Slave Argo The Artist The King's Speech I'd say 12 Years a Slave can have classic status from those and possibly Moonlight and Parasite. Shape of Water if I'm being very generous. The rest... Fine at most, Green Book at worst. I enjoyed greenbook but found Nomadland boring as hell
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Post by Youthist on Mar 13, 2023 15:13:43 GMT
I turned Everything off after about 45 mins. Loud overbearing pointless nonsense.
I thought Inception was fairly shit, but not as shit as Tenet.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 13, 2023 15:57:20 GMT
Of any of these Oscar nominated movies I've seen the past few years, The Sound of Metal has well and truly stuck with me.
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Post by myk on Mar 13, 2023 15:58:33 GMT
I don't get why so many people who didn't finish the film are so eager to tell everyone else (there was a Guardian thread full of exactly that a week ago). It would be like an Arsenal fan going "I stopped watching the Bournemouth game at 2-0 down, it was shit". The second half features a lot of meaningful resolutions to the weirder and wackier early stuff.
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Post by Duffking on Mar 13, 2023 16:18:45 GMT
I mean, that's the internet. Someone not liking the same things as you at least requires you to immediately inform them that this is a thing that has occurred so that you can continue to feel that your tasted are objectively superior.
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Post by clemfandango on Mar 13, 2023 16:28:55 GMT
I thought Everything Everywhere was good, but in no way should it be beating Its all quiet on the western front. Its all quiet is a masterpiece
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