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Post by britesparc on Sept 30, 2023 13:25:16 GMT
I was going to come on and say something similar. When I look back at the post-Endgame content, there are some films and shows that I absolutely adored. Even ignoring my outlier delight at Love and Thunder, I genuinely think She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, No Way Home, Guardians 3, WandaVision, and Hawkeye are really, really good, up in the top end of MCU offerings. Then you've got Moon Knight, Loki, Multiverse of Madness, Shang-Chi, and probably another one or two I'm forgetting, which were all good, fun times.
I wonder if the reason why there might be a little less enthusiasm is partly because it doesn't feel like it's building towards anything, or it's all so disparate that we don't feel we're following one story at the moment; individual films/shows might be great but it doesn't add to a whole because, well, Shang-Chi's only cropped up in one film (for example).
Since maybe Age of Ultron the universe felt really interconnected even if the films didn't bleed into each other that much. Going all the way back to the start of the MCU - when they really were a bit more separate - it wasn't as big a deal because we weren't used to it. But dropping back out of shared universe mentality has maybe broken the bonds a bit. That's my theory anyway.
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Post by kal on Sept 30, 2023 13:29:51 GMT
I will keep banging the drum that D+ is the main reason quality has fallen. The minute they started seeing it all as ‘content’ needed to keep that massive container topped up it all went wrong.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 30, 2023 13:43:23 GMT
I think it has spread thing more thinly, definitely. Plus divided the audience as not everyone will have seen the tv shows.
A lot of the post-endgame-related stuff has been in tv shows rather than movies, and a lot of the tv shows would have been better as movies.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2023 13:49:47 GMT
It’s a rock and a hard place. They have contrived a situation where people complain if there isn’t enough content dropped onto Disney+ and then complain when it’s inevitably diluted shite.
And, yes, I prop that up. As much as I complain, I would definitely have cancelled my sub if there wasn’t a drip feed of chaff to moan about.
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Post by simple on Sept 30, 2023 22:59:23 GMT
I’ve enjoyed most of the D+ stuff even if the broad trend in quality has been broadly downward.
They should more one-shot stuff like the GOTG Christmas Special and that werewolf one. They’ve proven pretty conclusively that most D+ shows only have around an hour of good stuff in them anyway already.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 30, 2023 23:14:55 GMT
I think its probably more that they just realised there is a lot of homework that needs to be done before anyone gives a shit about it This is exactly what it is, fwiw. Probably a 3 minute trailer and two of those are ‘previously on….’ before cutting to a minute of fight scenes set to a jarringly out of time version of intergalactic. |
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Post by aubergine on Oct 6, 2023 15:11:15 GMT
Loki s2 Ep 1 is up, was very good. If you didn’t the like the first season, you still won’t! I really appreciated the explanation of last season’s cliffhanger actually made sense. that the Kang statues are there and they don’t know Lok, not because the TVA is somehow a new timeline now, but because he’s in the past before they met him. |
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 6, 2023 17:37:31 GMT
Very much enjoyed the first episode of season 2, adding Ke Huy Quan to the cast looks like a fantastic decision. I'm surprised at how much Oklahoma looks like Southern England though. Filming moved from Atlanta to Pinewood for season 2. |
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Post by technoish on Oct 6, 2023 18:23:58 GMT
Would we have had Andor without D+? Enough for me to make it all ok  |
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Post by myk on Oct 6, 2023 19:42:58 GMT
Very much enjoyed the first episode of season 2, adding Ke Huy Quan to the cast looks like a fantastic decision. I'm surprised at how much Oklahoma looks like Southern England though. Filming moved from Atlanta to Pinewood for season 2. He really does fit the series perfectly. Good first ep that flows really nicely, quite a hectic pace. |
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Post by nemesis on Oct 6, 2023 19:43:42 GMT
Great to have the madness that is Loki back on the screen.
Excellent first episode that.
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Post by gray on Oct 6, 2023 21:54:25 GMT
Shot for every Hiddlestone pointless hair flick
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Post by britesparc on Oct 8, 2023 8:49:54 GMT
Is it really pointless? His hair is quite long and wavy. I can see it getting in his eyes a fair bit.
Anyway, great first episode, glad to have it back. I can't get over how much nicer it looks than Secret Invasion; the design, the framing, the colour...
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Post by dfunked on Oct 8, 2023 20:48:56 GMT
Cracking first episode. First time in ages that I'm genuinely excited to see what comes next in anything MCU.
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Post by aubergine on Oct 8, 2023 23:44:04 GMT
I’d kind of hoped they’d dump all episodes at once, as my sub expires next week… I guess one more month won’t make Bob Iger THAT much wealthier.
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Post by geefe on Oct 9, 2023 0:19:59 GMT
Just unsubscribe then come back for a month?
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Post by aubergine on Oct 9, 2023 0:24:55 GMT
Just unsubscribe then come back for a month? Yeah that’s the vague plan. Reminds me I need to look up when it finishes as I might need to delay resubscribing for a week or two to catch the rest of it in a month. I’m not really aware of what they’ve got after this. Daredevil Born Eventually, no idea when that will actually come out, presumably all content after Loki is heavily delayed by the strikes. |
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Post by dfunked on Oct 9, 2023 6:46:40 GMT
Final episode is Nov 10th, so you might not need to delay it.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Oct 9, 2023 7:44:12 GMT
Just unsubscribe then come back for a month? This is basically my life hack for streaming services. I never forget what I'm subscribed to, because any time I subscribe to something (after a critical mass of stuff I want to watch is reached) I'm immediately hammering the cancel subscription button. I keep Amazon and a couple free ones around, but most other things are only a sporadic month here and there. |
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Post by simple on Oct 9, 2023 9:46:45 GMT
The good thing about doing the cancel-binge on Prime is if you’re quick enough Amazon will refund your £7.99 too
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Post by geefe on Oct 9, 2023 9:54:42 GMT
At what point do they block that?
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Post by HoyaWobmaJ on Oct 9, 2023 10:14:08 GMT
I think Amazon are making so much money not to give a shit about people doing this.
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Post by simple on Oct 9, 2023 13:56:53 GMT
Yous better not grass me up to Bezos
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 9, 2023 14:33:26 GMT
Amazon need an informant line so we get cheaper Prime if we dob people in.
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 11, 2023 15:27:40 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 11, 2023 15:31:45 GMT
After what happened with Secret Invasion they're desperate not to have it go wrong and considering this quote from the article -
"But sources say that Corman and Ord crafted a legal procedural that did not resemble the Netflix version, known for its action and violence. Cox didn’t even show up in costume until the fourth episode."
What the fuck were they doing?!
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2023 16:04:24 GMT
That's hilarious. Their approach to making TV shows was basically "make a film but longer and let the CGI fix shit"
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Post by neems on Oct 11, 2023 17:36:31 GMT
I can't get over how much nicer it looks than Secret Invasion; the design, the framing, the colour... Agreed. It's not the greatest show in the world by any means, but the gulf in quality between this and Secret Wars is really incredible. |
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Post by neems on Oct 11, 2023 17:40:29 GMT
That's hilarious. Their approach to making TV shows was basically "make a film but longer and let the CGI fix shit" "Through it all, the company eschewed the traditional TV-making model. It didn’t commission pilots but instead shot entire $150 million-plus seasons of TV on the fly. It didn’t hire showrunners, but instead depended on film executives to run its series. And as Marvel does for its movies, it relied on postproduction and reshoots to fix what wasn’t working." That is mental, what genius thought that was a good idea? |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 12, 2023 5:50:45 GMT
After what happened with Secret Invasion they're desperate not to have it go wrong and considering this quote from the article -
"But sources say that Corman and Ord crafted a legal procedural that did not resemble the Netflix version, known for its action and violence. Cox didn’t even show up in costume until the fourth episode."
What the fuck were they doing?!
Tbf, he didn't show up in costume for pretty much the entire first season. Plus his new costume looks terrible. A legal procedural isn't a terrible idea, given that they want to diversify the kinds of shows they're making. Turning She Hulk into something a bit Ali McBeal worked for them. And people apparently liked the fact that Wandavision took 4 episodes to get bloody started. But yeah, for this particular show, making it too legal procedural and not enough action would be a weird choice. Though the netflix version had its fair share of court room stuff. |
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