Goban
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Post by Goban on Dec 7, 2022 22:36:49 GMT
As much as I love Terminator and Aliens, 4 maybe 5 decent movies in 40 years isn't particularly great.
Avatar was just really dull, and going by the trailers this looks the same. The US early feedback is decent, but the more critical UK ones are decidedly Meh.
Think I'll give it a miss.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 7, 2022 23:06:22 GMT
Only 9 directing credits, he really hadn't done many films. The quality of them though Is superb and true "blockbusters"
aliens
Abyss
Terminator
Terminator 2
True lies
Titanic
Avatar
All massive films.
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Dec 8, 2022 1:11:05 GMT
Only 9 directing credits, he really hadn't done many films. The quality of them though Is superb and true "blockbusters" Abyss Terminator Terminator 2 True lies Titanic Avatar All massive films. Aliens as well. Everything he’s done since Aliens has arguably been about pushing some new technology or obsession (eg The Abyss had the prototype liquid CGI and was very wet) with the weird exception of True Lies, which I thought was a bizarre film. The point is he doesn’t rush out movies because he is trying to develop the technology behind the scenes, and he’s also pootling about some underwater trench in his mason jar full of piss. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Dec 8, 2022 1:19:52 GMT
True Lies isn't bizarre. It's fucking great. GTFO.
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Dec 8, 2022 1:31:39 GMT
“Ass like a ten year-old boy!”
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Post by deez on Dec 8, 2022 7:58:19 GMT
I've not watched Avatar, everything I've seen and heard just seems a works away from what I would like to watch. The whole concept that is the most successful film ever is quite incredible.
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 8, 2022 8:52:20 GMT
I've not watched Avatar, everything I've seen and heard just seems a works away from what I would like to watch. The whole concept that is the most successful film ever is quite incredible. It's just a massive Holywood blockbuster. Big set pieces over indulgent and not particularly original. I have to say when I saw it in the cinema I was blown away. If you peel the layers away though there's not much to it. |
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Post by baihu1983 on Dec 8, 2022 8:54:06 GMT
Been said before but Ferngully did it better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 8:54:59 GMT
I think they've harmed their chances a bit by taking Avatar 1 off TV and streaming to funnel people to the cinema for it. There must be a generation who haven't seen the first that could have used the hype of being able to watch it. It was on Disney + most of the year but got removed in the summer. Somebody will tell me I'm wrong now I'm sure!
I always liked it. Fern Gully X Braveheart X Aliens Colonial Marines.
Obviously Sam Worthington wasn't the most charismatic lead, is he back? I remember he did this and the quite good Terminator Salvation* that everybody hates and then I never heard of him again.
*Bale was crap in it though.
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Post by Derblington on Dec 8, 2022 8:56:25 GMT
It went back onto D+ a couple of weeks ago (Sweden) after being removed for a month or so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 8:57:15 GMT
I think they've harmed their chances a bit by taking Avatar 1 off TV and streaming to funnel people to the cinema for it. There must be a generation who haven't seen the first that could have used the hype of being able to watch it. It was on Disney + most of the year but got removed in the summer. Somebody will tell me I'm wrong now I'm sure! I always liked it. Fern Gully X Braveheart X Aliens Colonial Marines. Obviously Sam Worthington wasn't the most charismatic lead, is he back? I remember he did this and the quite good Terminator Salvation* that everybody hates and then I never heard of him again. *Bale was crap in it though. EDIT - just checked and it's back on Disney - it definitely came off for a couple of months though. |
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Dec 8, 2022 8:57:18 GMT
It’s on D+ in Australia.
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Post by baihu1983 on Dec 8, 2022 10:08:56 GMT
Yep Sam Worthington is back
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 8, 2022 11:10:28 GMT
I'd be mildly interested in going to see it. The first one was fun enough and pretty,if forgettable.
But my kids haven't seen the first one, so they' have no interest in going. *shrug*
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Post by Dougs on Dec 8, 2022 11:47:43 GMT
I had a dodgy HD copy when it was first released that failed after 40 mins, just about when I was starting to get bored. When I was finally able to watch it properly, I started to lose interest about the same point. The hooky copy knew me so well.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 8, 2022 13:18:09 GMT
Sounds like my old copy of Basic Instinct
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 8, 2022 13:30:19 GMT
Been said before but Ferngully did it better. I always thought it was a copy of Dances with Wolves |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 8, 2022 13:31:02 GMT
Been said before but Ferngully did it better. I always thought it was a copy of Dances with Wolves Not Pocahontas? |
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 8, 2022 13:31:51 GMT
I always thought it was a copy of Dances with Wolves Not Pocahontas? And that  |
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Post by baihu1983 on Dec 8, 2022 13:38:49 GMT
Been said before but Ferngully did it better. I always thought it was a copy of Dances with Wolves Pretty sure Cameron would want anyone saying it wasn't 100% killed anyways. |
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Post by Lukus on Dec 8, 2022 13:48:41 GMT
The only thing less original than the plot of Avatar is... AH FORGET IT
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 8, 2022 14:09:26 GMT
And that Not Albion?
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Post by malek86 on Dec 8, 2022 14:22:24 GMT
I'll be amazed if this sequel makes anywhere as much money as the first movie, unless China goes crazy for it or something. I really hope ther budget wasn't a billion dollars or even anywhere close.
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Post by beastmaster on Dec 8, 2022 14:25:01 GMT
$250 million.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 8, 2022 14:34:21 GMT
Seems the Avatar re-release did $75M globally, of which $50M was international.
Ahead of Ambulance for reference.
Doesn't seem like it was re-released in China though, which is odd as I thought it was big there.
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Post by addyb on Dec 8, 2022 17:43:57 GMT
I liked Avatar. It was a great experience at the cinema. Definitely going to see the new one.
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Post by Whizzo on Dec 8, 2022 18:31:19 GMT
I'll be amazed if this sequel makes anywhere as much money as the first movie, unless China goes crazy for it or something. I really hope ther budget wasn't a billion dollars or even anywhere close. Given China's zero COVID policy it's got bugger all chance. |
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Post by Goban on Dec 8, 2022 22:47:09 GMT
Only 9 directing credits, he really hadn't done many films. The quality of them though Is superb and true "blockbusters" aliens Abyss Terminator Terminator 2 True lies Titanic Avatar All massive films. If you view success as the highest quality metric, then I suppose you're right. |
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Post by damagedinc on Dec 9, 2022 6:32:08 GMT
Only 9 directing credits, he really hadn't done many films. The quality of them though Is superb and true "blockbusters" aliens Abyss Terminator Terminator 2 True lies Titanic Avatar All massive films. If you view success as the highest quality metric, then I suppose you're right. Not at all..but from a "summer blockbuster" stand point all those films are infinitely more interesting then what gets offered up now. Aliens/terminator/terminator 2 are regarded as some of the best Sci fi ever made. Avatar and titanic are visual spectacles albeit with flaws. And true lies had Arnold ride a harrier jump jet and a horse all in the same film. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2022 0:20:30 GMT
Just watched Avatar on D+ over a couple of nights.
I think the 4K shows the joins in the seams at points but it holds up very well overall - it doesn't shame itself compared to much more modern Marvel or Star Wars films CGI wise. Except perhaps for the hyena/ant-dog things. Those looked really bad and superimposed.
It was never going to win awards for its storyline but it is I think a rather engaging film on the whole, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I actually re-evaluated Sam Worthington a bit and think some of my worse opinions about him are a combo of received wisdom and remembering him being dull in Terminator Salvation, which was a dull film altogether anyway. His performance wasn't bad at all. Soldana was good too, and I will always have a soft spot for Sigourney Weaver. The marine big cheese guy I forget his name is hilariously over the top in a good way.
I like the fact that the nature stuff appealed to the hippy in me and the Cameron colonial marine mil-porn army tech stuff appealed to the toxic 16 year old male in me. Don't think many films have ever done that. The big sick-arsed gunship in particular was really cool.
The Na'avi look really great most of the time. Am now enthused for the second one. By the looks of it the big sick-arsed gunship has been replaced by a big sick-arsed hovercraft, which is cool.
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