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Post by 😎 on Oct 5, 2022 16:34:45 GMT
It has two vents, one into the room on a fan and one that just vents outside, it’s on an external wall. I think it’s called “balanced flue”, but it’s not a traditional chimney flue.
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Post by henroben on Oct 5, 2022 16:37:32 GMT
It has two vents, one into the room on a fan and one that just vents outside, it’s on an external wall. I think it’s called “balanced flue”, but it’s not a traditional chimney flue. Ah, that is indeed something different. Although I don't think it'd prevent you from fitting a log burner if you really wanted one. I think they just drill a big hole in the wall and then run the stove pipe into an external chimney they fit. No idea how much it might cost though - presume it'd be more expensive than utilising an existing chimney.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 5, 2022 16:44:31 GMT
I may be a bit of a masochist, but I actually like chopping the logs. It's a jolly good workout and you only very occasionally get smashed in the shins by a massive piece of fast moving log. Splitting logs is fine, a fun and manly activity that makes you feel like a lumberjack! Sawing logs on the other hand is a hideous pastime if you don't have a chainsaw that just makes me want to cry. I've got a vice and a jigsaw if I badly need to saw them, but otherwise, sod that. 100% 😁 Axes, though, axes are great.
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Post by smoothpete on Oct 5, 2022 16:56:31 GMT
It has two vents, one into the room on a fan and one that just vents outside, it’s on an external wall. I think it’s called “balanced flue”, but it’s not a traditional chimney flue. Ah, that is indeed something different. Although I don't think it'd prevent you from fitting a log burner if you really wanted one. I think they just drill a big hole in the wall and then run the stove pipe into an external chimney they fit. No idea how much it might cost though - presume it'd be more expensive than utilising an existing chimney. It would probably be cheaper than retrofitting an existing chimney with a liner. My mum's house has an external chimney and it's a very simple piece of kit. Hole in the wall, pipe bolted to the wall, no bother. It looked like something I could install myself, and I'm a total fucking idiot
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 5, 2022 16:56:56 GMT
imgur.com/a/EkQvr5IHow do I insert this into the post? Anyway. This is what I am faced with..doesn't appear to be another lintel further up. Wondering if I can at least get the old coal insert out?
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Post by jeepers on Oct 5, 2022 17:09:16 GMT
I may be a bit of a masochist, but I actually like chopping the logs. It's a jolly good workout and you only very occasionally get smashed in the shins by a massive piece of fast moving log. Splitting logs is fine, a fun and manly activity that makes you feel like a lumberjack! Sawing logs on the other hand is a hideous pastime if you don't have a chainsaw that just makes me want to cry. I’m guessing the answer is Yes but have you got a decent saw? A wooden frame saw would make your life a lot easier; vintage ones are cheap and you can replace the blade cheaply. Edit: This kind of thing: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295239926882?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338895770&toolid=20006&customid=255_255_255&
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Post by henroben on Oct 5, 2022 17:10:34 GMT
imgur.com/a/EkQvr5IHow do I insert this into the post? Anyway. This is what I am faced with..doesn't appear to be another lintel further up. Wondering if I can at least get the old coal insert out? That looks... odd. Although I'm no expert to be fair. Looks like a big ol concrete lintel and some random bricks and mortar squished in around the fireback. It's hard to work out how big it all is, but from the bricks it looks like the current opening is maybe 40 cm ish wide? That's very small, almost the size I'd expect a bedroom coal fire to be. How old is the house? I'd expect the builders opening to be much bigger - I'm wondering if the old fire was taken out and the builders opening was bricked up & that concrete lintel put in at the same time? Firebacks are usually cast iron, is probably mortared in so you could probably chip it out with a hammer & bolster. Are you not tempted to restore it to a working fire? You could probably pick up a coal grate on ebay for it?
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Post by henroben on Oct 5, 2022 17:13:43 GMT
Splitting logs is fine, a fun and manly activity that makes you feel like a lumberjack! Sawing logs on the other hand is a hideous pastime if you don't have a chainsaw that just makes me want to cry. I’m guessing the answer is Yes but have you got a decent saw? A wooden frame saw would make your life a lot easier; vintage ones are cheap and you can replace the blade cheaply. Yeah, I've got a Swedish wood saw with separate wet & dry blades that goes through a log like prune juice through a grandmother... the trouble tends to start around the 7th or 8th log when I realise that I'm an out of shape porker rapidly approaching 50 and most definitely do not have biceps of steel!
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Post by jeepers on Oct 5, 2022 17:17:03 GMT
I’m guessing the answer is Yes but have you got a decent saw? A wooden frame saw would make your life a lot easier; vintage ones are cheap and you can replace the blade cheaply. Yeah, I've got a Swedish wood saw with separate wet & dry blades that goes through a log like prune juice through a grandmother... the trouble tends to start around the 7th or 8th log when I realise that I'm an out of shape porker rapidly approaching 50 and most definitely do not have biceps of steel! I recognise that self-assessment! I’m still focusing the whole “Let the saw do the work” advice. Someone said that if you’re tired after ten minutes you’re working too hard - but they’d never met a lazy, out of shape cunt like me I suspect.
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Post by henroben on Oct 5, 2022 17:28:20 GMT
Yeah, I've got a Swedish wood saw with separate wet & dry blades that goes through a log like prune juice through a grandmother... the trouble tends to start around the 7th or 8th log when I realise that I'm an out of shape porker rapidly approaching 50 and most definitely do not have biceps of steel! I recognise that self-assessment! I’m still focusing the whole “Let the saw do the work” advice. Someone said that if you’re tired after ten minutes you’re working too hard - but they’d never met a lazy, out of shape cunt like me I suspect. I'm not tired after 10 minutes, more like 45 mins / an hour I guess. But it depends on what you're cutting - there's a BIG difference between sawing a bit of pine from B&Q for example and cutting up a section of Hornbeam or Oak out in the woods with a saw that is ever so slightly too small for the diameter of tree you're trying to cut I've also got a small Japanese saw that cuts in the opposite direction to western saws - cuts on the back stroke. It's definitely less effort to use, but sadly is only really suitable for the smaller branches.
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Post by Vortex on Oct 5, 2022 17:37:02 GMT
goes through a log like prune juice through a grandmother... This turn of phrase got a glol from me!
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Post by quadfather on Oct 5, 2022 17:40:26 GMT
Haha
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Post by elstoof on Oct 5, 2022 18:02:49 GMT
Ah man, I would totally love to live on a narrowboat. Maybe when I retire, I'll fuck it all off and live a simpler life. I lived on a Dutch barge as a teenager, can confirm it’s either freezing cold or boiling hot all year round and everything you own smells damp and musty
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Post by damagedinc on Oct 5, 2022 18:46:01 GMT
imgur.com/a/EkQvr5IHow do I insert this into the post? Anyway. This is what I am faced with..doesn't appear to be another lintel further up. Wondering if I can at least get the old coal insert out? That looks... odd. Although I'm no expert to be fair. Looks like a big ol concrete lintel and some random bricks and mortar squished in around the fireback. It's hard to work out how big it all is, but from the bricks it looks like the current opening is maybe 40 cm ish wide? That's very small, almost the size I'd expect a bedroom coal fire to be. How old is the house? I'd expect the builders opening to be much bigger - I'm wondering if the old fire was taken out and the builders opening was bricked up & that concrete lintel put in at the same time? Firebacks are usually cast iron, is probably mortared in so you could probably chip it out with a hammer & bolster. Are you not tempted to restore it to a working fire? You could probably pick up a coal grate on ebay for it? Yeah it is hard to work out. I don't know if it's always been like this? When we moved in they had an old electric fire in front of it. There's a capped gas pipe next to the chimney breast..so assume at some point it was a gas fire? House was built in 1960's so not that old. Would it not be too small to use as an open fire? It is weird because the room is quite big (20 sqft) so you would expect it to have been bigger?
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Post by quadfather on Oct 5, 2022 20:07:36 GMT
Is there a chance you could take some of the bricks out left and right to make wider? The lintel can cover it?
/not a builder in any way shape or form
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Post by dogbot on Oct 5, 2022 20:09:41 GMT
Yeah, you might want an actual builder to look at that. Chimneys are funny. Might be designed to hold weight from above etc.
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Post by henroben on Oct 5, 2022 21:00:29 GMT
Yeah it is hard to work out. I don't know if it's always been like this? When we moved in they had an old electric fire in front of it. There's a capped gas pipe next to the chimney breast..so assume at some point it was a gas fire? House was built in 1960's so not that old. Would it not be too small to use as an open fire? It is weird because the room is quite big (20 sqft) so you would expect it to have been bigger? I'm not sure how big 1960's builders openings would be, if it was Victorian I'd expect it to be basically the size of all the bricks you've exposed from the lintel down. Fireplaces basically become smaller through time, as the designs of firebacks & fireplaces become more efficient at radiating heat into the room and, of course, the use of coal allowed fires to become MUCH smaller for the same heat output - especially if you're burning high grade coal like anthracite. So the fact it's a small fire for the room doesn't mean it wouldn't be effective. It'd probably be too small for a wood fire though, but you could probably find a coal grate and put it in after checking the chimney is open & getting it cleaned. If the fire was originally bigger and has been blocked in then you might be able to tell if you take the fireback out - it's unlikely they went to the trouble and expense of filling it in with bricks so you might well find a void behind it extending out to the sides. But if it's originally built like that there probably won't be much behind it. You could probably still fit a small stove like the hobbit I've got in there if you wanted a stove, I think it only needs 10cm clearance each side. But you'd need to get an installer in to double check etc. etc.
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Post by darkling on Oct 7, 2022 18:11:16 GMT
Does anyone have a stove fan? If so, do you find them effective, and can you recommend a specific one? Thanks.
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Post by technoish on Oct 7, 2022 18:12:37 GMT
Does anyone have a stove fan? If so, do you find them effective, and can you recommend a specific one? Thanks. It's only 3 pages of comments, didn't we cover that here? We all said get one. I think they are fairly commoditised so pick one you think is pretty.
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Post by richardiox on Oct 7, 2022 18:34:01 GMT
Does anyone have a stove fan? If so, do you find them effective, and can you recommend a specific one? Thanks. It's only 3 pages of comments, didn't we cover that here? We all said get one. I think they are fairly commoditised so pick one you think is pretty. Had one on my Amazon wishlist for ages. Been £25 all year and now it's £37...all the others have also had a 50% bump. Fucks me off, seasonal gouging.
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Post by darkling on Oct 7, 2022 19:39:15 GMT
Does anyone have a stove fan? If so, do you find them effective, and can you recommend a specific one? Thanks. It's only 3 pages of comments, didn't we cover that here? We all said get one. I think they are fairly commoditised so pick one you think is pretty. I read the thread a few days back and didn't see any talk of fans, but I should have double checked. My bad. It's been a long day. dogbot I'd love to know where you got yours from for £12! Looks great.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 7, 2022 19:40:26 GMT
Shit. Just looked and the one we bought for about twelve quid this time last year is now £45. That sucks. It's cosy evenings time...
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Post by darkling on Oct 7, 2022 20:48:31 GMT
Yeah I did think all the ones on Amazon seemed expensive for what they are. Definitely some autumn price gouging going on.
The market is saturated with fans of all different prices at the mo, hard to know where to start. Knowing my decision skills, I'll end up with one that has some major fault or something.
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Post by henroben on Oct 7, 2022 21:13:16 GMT
Yeah I did think all the ones on Amazon seemed expensive for what they are. Definitely some autumn price gouging going on. The market is saturated with fans of all different prices at the mo, hard to know where to start. Knowing my decision skills, I'll end up with one that has some major fault or something. My general impression of the fans is that the cheaper the fan, the faster it will fail, basically. It hasn't happened to me yet, but I know a couple of people with stoves & they've had cheap fans break after a couple of years - apparently the peltier plates are prone to failing. Mind you, if they're cheap enough I guess you just treat them as consumable items that needs to be replaced every so often!
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Post by henroben on Oct 8, 2022 11:56:53 GMT
Possibly a bit of a random question, but has anyone installed any kind of lighting around their log burner / fireplace?
I'm wondering about an led strip light hidden behind the horizontal plate of the surround. I know you can get heat resistant strips - think they're good up to 100 degrees centigrade, but actually have no idea how hot it gets around the register plate!
Not dead set on doing this, might look horrible, was just wondering if anyone else had tried it?
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Post by technoish on Oct 8, 2022 12:10:59 GMT
I smell burning plastic!!!!
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Post by quadfather on Oct 8, 2022 12:31:47 GMT
Wouldn't it look a bit...
You know..
Crap?
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Post by mrpon on Oct 8, 2022 12:33:43 GMT
Start worrying when quad calls it shit.
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Post by henroben on Oct 8, 2022 13:11:55 GMT
Wouldn't it look a bit... You know.. Crap? Don't know. Maybe? However I have seen it done in a couple of pubs with inglenooks and it actually looked quite nice.
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Post by quadfather on Oct 8, 2022 13:13:23 GMT
Have you got an example? I can't imagine how it would look
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