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Post by captbirdseye on Oct 9, 2021 10:41:26 GMT
Or send Agent 47 to UEFA HQ. I wonder how many threats the local press will get if they start getting critical of the ownership.
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Post by Matt A on Oct 9, 2021 10:42:16 GMT
F*king hate international weeks. I organise my weekend around the football.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 9, 2021 10:44:23 GMT
"Maybe he did and maybe he didn't! That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the breaking of FFP rules"
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Post by puddleduck on Oct 9, 2021 10:54:42 GMT
F*king hate international weeks. I organise my weekend around the football. I came in to post that international weekends are shit too 😂
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 9, 2021 13:32:46 GMT
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Post by Gl3n on Oct 9, 2021 18:05:39 GMT
I made the mistake of checking in to a few fans forums for Newcastle. The prevailing sense is that everyone is shit scared of them now, with loads of mental gymnastics around the new owner. A clip of Shearer beaming.
I always had a soft spot for them considering the hostage situation with Ashley, and because of our own murky past with shit owners.
Sometimes I feel like one of the only football fans with a moral compass... How can so many people turn a blind eye? The club you love so much just got taken over by a bloodthirsty dictator and the sport as a whole is endorsing this individual.
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Post by Frog on Oct 9, 2021 18:10:00 GMT
Don't get toonmonkey started glen
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Post by Matt A on Oct 9, 2021 18:19:28 GMT
Great tribute to Jinny Graves and Roger Hunt before the game
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 18:26:35 GMT
Jinny Graves taught me everything I know about flamenco dancing.
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Post by simple on Oct 9, 2021 18:27:24 GMT
I made the mistake of checking in to a few fans forums for Newcastle. The prevailing sense is that everyone is shit scared of them now, with loads of mental gymnastics around the new owner. A clip of Shearer beaming.
I always had a soft spot for them considering the hostage situation with Ashley, and because of our own murky past with shit owners.
Sometimes I feel like one of the only football fans with a moral compass... How can so many people turn a blind eye? The club you love so much just got taken over by a bloodthirsty dictator and the sport as a whole is endorsing this individual.
There’s a lot of “oh Amnesty are interested in Saudi Arabia now they’re buying but you never hear them kicking off over Formula 1 or the government doing arms deals with them. Makes you think.” going on as well.
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Post by Gl3n on Oct 9, 2021 18:49:11 GMT
A lot of what-about-ism. The sort of people that don't give a shit about climate change and throw their single use plastic in the street. It's always someone else's responsibility.
Pretty embarrassing stuff from Newcastle fans in general. Choice lines like 'its hard to feel pride in your club with an owner like Ashley', so passively sticking up for and enabling a renowned brutal dictator is better? Rrrright.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 19:08:49 GMT
I'm disappointed in myself how little I care to be honest. I thought I was better than this. And the bitterness from fans of other teams is really making me feel pretty good. Maybe we are the bad guys.
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Post by deez on Oct 9, 2021 19:09:15 GMT
... And to rub salt in the wounds, rumour has it that Potter is their preferred choice of next manager...
(Surely he wouldn't go... Would he?)
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Oct 9, 2021 19:14:38 GMT
They are going to want to get a 'name' in before long. If I were Potter, or any other up and coming manager I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole just yet. They are gonna need to get their Galactico phase out of their system first.
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Post by Gl3n on Oct 9, 2021 19:26:44 GMT
I'm disappointed in myself how little I care to be honest. I thought I was better than this. And the bitterness from fans of other teams is really making me feel pretty good. Maybe we are the bad guys. Sporting wise and after 14 years of being held hostage by a bloated shit of a man, it's a fantastically brilliant result on paper and I'd be conflicted if not elated in the short term.
Ultimately, St James' Park is now a facility who's sole purpose is to tacitly further the brutalisation of thousands.
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Post by ToonMonkey on Oct 9, 2021 19:36:49 GMT
I'm disappointed in myself how little I care to be honest. I thought I was better than this. And the bitterness from fans of other teams is really making me feel pretty good. Maybe we are the bad guys. Yeah maybe we have no choice but to revel in being the bad guys. Beheading Bruce at half time could be fun.
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Post by simple on Oct 9, 2021 19:47:22 GMT
I think the Ashley years have made it easier for me to not feel as conflicted about the Saudi takeover since my attachment to the club was already on the wane. My last first team home game was the 3-0 over West Ham in the summer of 2017, and I was regularly attending nonleague and women’s games before then.
If anything moving to the Middle East for the blood billions makes the club even less familiar than the chaotic mediocrity of the last decade.
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Post by RobEG on Oct 9, 2021 19:48:02 GMT
It’s difficult to take the moral high ground considering we were 4th on that list. There have been no morals in football for a long time and I guess it just gradually gets worse and we either accept it and continue watching or take a stand and just go watch our local team.
I suppose there is a difference between accepting it and actively celebrating it? I’m probably in no position to judge though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 19:50:18 GMT
I'm disappointed in myself how little I care to be honest. I thought I was better than this. And the bitterness from fans of other teams is really making me feel pretty good. Maybe we are the bad guys. Sporting wise and after 14 years of being held hostage by a bloated shit of a man, it's a fantastically brilliant result on paper and I'd be conflicted if not elated in the short term.
Ultimately, St James' Park is now a facility who's sole purpose is to tacitly further the brutalisation of thousands.
It's not really it's sole purpose though is it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 19:54:06 GMT
Unless you're talking about the fights in the Bigg Market afterwards as well.
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Post by reddevil93 on Oct 9, 2021 19:56:08 GMT
It’s difficult to take the moral high ground considering we were 4th on that list. There have been no morals in football for a long time and I guess it just gradually gets worse and we either accept it and continue watching or take a stand and just go watch our local team. I suppose there is a difference between accepting it and actively celebrating it? I’m probably in no position to judge though. Yeah I honestly don’t even mind those that just want to bury their heads in the sand and watch better football that the muck they’ve been subjected to, but the weirdos with the Saudi flags in their Twitter profiles need some slaps.
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Post by simple on Oct 9, 2021 20:02:49 GMT
You just know so many of them would’ve been there for Tommy Robinson’s appearances in town bleating on about sharia law
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Post by Gl3n on Oct 9, 2021 20:09:12 GMT
Sporting wise and after 14 years of being held hostage by a bloated shit of a man, it's a fantastically brilliant result on paper and I'd be conflicted if not elated in the short term.
Ultimately, St James' Park is now a facility who's sole purpose is to tacitly further the brutalisation of thousands.
It's not really it's sole purpose though is it. Well why does MBS have an 80% stake then?
If its not for sportswashing and enabling his position through the positive PR of pumping loads of money into a popular sport, are you telling me its because his Nan was part of the Toon army and he loved Greggs before it was cool?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 20:16:39 GMT
It may be the Saudi owners purpose. But there's still going to be all of the footballing staff with a different purpose. And the hundreds of thousands of people in the city it means something different to as well. Which is what muddies the waters.
NOT THAT I ENDORSE THE SLAYING OF JOURNALISTS
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Post by Gl3n on Oct 9, 2021 20:28:33 GMT
Right, so if Company A has a brand I like, that means something to me and my friends (football, hamburgers, whatever), I can leave any moral misgivings at the door even if the Company's new primary purpose is to distract from the fact that they kill hundreds if not thousands of innocents in other countries?
If football is an entertainment product, but is also about 'community', surely you can see how utterly fucked up that looks to everyone else.
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Post by Frog on Oct 9, 2021 20:46:45 GMT
Don't lie Decks, you are so into this that you would shag Staveley if she asked you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 20:48:11 GMT
So are you expecting everyone to just stop supporting them? Do you think that would happen with any other team?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 20:48:57 GMT
Don't lie Decks, you are so into this that you would shag Staveley if she asked you. She would have been extremely fit before her head was partially crushed in a vice.
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Post by Frog on Oct 9, 2021 20:50:51 GMT
I'm sure that she looked a lot more normal the first time she tried to take you over. She is turning into the guy from the film mask now.
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Post by Dgzter on Oct 9, 2021 21:04:47 GMT
Tbh I find it difficult to get too exercised about Newcastle fans feeling excited. My wife's a Geordie and a former season ticket holder, and I think she feels way more conflicted than I would given the circumstances.
I mean, yeah, it's obviously morally repugnant; and there absolutely shouldn't be scope for foreign regimes, whomever they may be, to sportswash and attempt to rehabilitate their public image through the flexing of soft power in the West, but what the fuck is your average Newcastle fan genuinely meant to do about it?
I get that it probably sounds a bit defeatist, but what is the fucking point when our own government (successive governments, no less) are constantly in bed with these people? Selling arms, turning a blind eye to atrocities, and facilitating even greater human suffering. Nothing's going to change now. The UK is a morally bankrupt shithole. We're done, lads.
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