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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 4, 2024 13:04:33 GMT
Edu is apparently leaving Arsenal, which is a surprise. After a distinctly shakey start he's been pretty good overall (just judging him on transfers) so something must have happened behind the scenes. The fact we have no idea speaks pretty well to how few leaks come out of the club these days. There have been some other board changes in last few months, so I guess it could be that they feel they need something different in that role. Only real disappointment with Edu is that he didn't bring us any Brazilian wonder kids (Martinelli was Cagigao. Apparently Forest want Edu. Certainly be interesting to see what sort of profile we replace him with. Maybe he just hit the ceiling. What else can he do? We ran City close two years in a row. The pressure to keep up is taking its toll this year I think. We perhaps had our hands tied in terms of who we could sign in the summer, but it was glaringly obvious that our attacking options were slim. He possibly hit the ceiling within the football structure at Arsenal. Does seem a fairly collegiate system at the club rather than the Director of Football having absolute power to make decisions. If he just wants to spend more freely, Forest rumours make no sense whatsoever. They're a great historic club above us in the league, but they also have minimal wiggle room on FFP. Whereas I think we'll make a big attacking signing next year. After the opportunistic Sesko move didn't happen it seemed to me like there was a conscious decision to create headroom in the FFP calc for the subsequent windows.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 4, 2024 13:21:47 GMT
Sounds like he'll take over the group that Forest are part of, rather than just Forest. So career development does seem like likely reason. All gets a big shrug from me anyway. Really can't be doing worrying about execs.
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Post by monkman5000 on Nov 4, 2024 14:08:58 GMT
Apparently Forest want Edu. Certainly be interesting to see what sort of profile we replace him with. Don't let him go to a title rival!!
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 4, 2024 16:16:54 GMT
The Sky punditry stuff basically works the same as Sport Bible now and we’d probably be best off remembering that. Engagement around a presented narrative. Chelsea being resurgent is one such recent narrative.
It can be entertaining sometimes but I felt that it just went a bit far last night. I don’t know what RVN is supposed to have implemented in less than a week beyond a bit of motivation.
They will probably jump on Forest going up the table and then make that toxic next. Some of the questions asked of the managers and players are borderline bad conduct to me. ‘Bruno, do you feel personally ashamed because you directly fired ETH?’ ‘Ruud, are you getting sacked by Amorim then? Your misfortune will feed our clicks and viewing.’ ‘Have you spoken to Erik? Did he cry?’
You know the ones, for any team. I know people had a go at Klopp for being a bit of a bully to reporters sometimes but you can clearly see how a character like that would feel pushed to it when faced with the bald faced tabloidy-ness of it all.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 4, 2024 16:29:06 GMT
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Post by myk on Nov 4, 2024 16:45:02 GMT
I wish every press conference was the one out of Mike Bassett: England Manager
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Post by Tuffty on Nov 4, 2024 19:26:51 GMT
What the hell is wrong with this journalist?
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 4, 2024 19:32:59 GMT
I like the cut of his jib so far. He is not letting them get under his skin and is almost a bit like a chaotic good troll in response.
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Post by Frog on Nov 4, 2024 19:47:55 GMT
Cotterill is a complete asshole, no idea how he is still at sky.
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Post by simple on Nov 4, 2024 20:06:19 GMT
Just when you think he’s peaked at being a dickhead he manages to go one round, incredible.
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Post by baihu1983 on Nov 4, 2024 21:08:48 GMT
Cotterill is a complete asshole, no idea how he is still at sky. Part of the requirement to work for them.
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Post by askew on Nov 4, 2024 21:42:56 GMT
Weird line of questioning.
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Post by RobEG on Nov 4, 2024 21:45:32 GMT
What the hell is wrong with this journalist? Fucking hell, respect to Amorim for remaining so polite!
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Post by Dougs on Nov 4, 2024 21:49:53 GMT
Fulham are tidy but toothless
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Post by Dougs on Nov 4, 2024 21:52:16 GMT
Haha, hilarious. Cracking touch by Wilson
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Nov 4, 2024 21:56:04 GMT
x2
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Post by Dougs on Nov 4, 2024 21:57:30 GMT
Unbelievable Jeff
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Post by Dougs on Nov 4, 2024 21:58:22 GMT
Brilliant end to the game, Brentford could have scored again. And looked like doing so when they went forward
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Post by simple on Nov 4, 2024 22:10:05 GMT
Fucking hell, respect to Amorim for remaining so polite! As he texts his agent under the desk to see if its not too late to stay in Lisbon
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Post by Dougs on Nov 4, 2024 22:48:25 GMT
Only just watched that clip. What an arsehole.
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Post by zisssou on Nov 5, 2024 8:02:15 GMT
I’m finding punditry and analysis really rough at the moment. I know we’ve touched on this before that negativity gets views.. but come on. Surely you have some integrity.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 5, 2024 9:16:42 GMT
Context (which we don't have) is all regarding that press conference clip. If SSN and Cotterill just rocked up at a Portuguese language press conference and demanded English answers then yeah, he's an entitled asshole.
If their press office invited English press and told them there would be Q&A in both languages and they've sat there for 25 mins with no English at all it's not unreasonable to request English when they were invited to ask their question. He may have been attempting to compliment Amorim with how he phrased the question but it was so clumsy it sounds sarcastic. His job was to get a 10s video quote that is usable on Sky Sports News, and without any English at all it is a wasted the trip.
Anyway, Amorim certainly handled that with good grace.
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Post by zisssou on Nov 5, 2024 9:29:38 GMT
He should have done a fake English accent, as is always the case when an English person tries to speak foreign.
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Post by rftp on Nov 5, 2024 9:34:09 GMT
"Waz ee sayen, Baz?"
The context is that Cotterill is an absolute arse, who has the rare skill of uniting almost all British fans in agreement that he's an absolute arse.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 5, 2024 9:37:14 GMT
I don't watch the interviews or punditry really, and the days of sky sports news being on all day are long gone. No idea who he is but definitely sounds like an arsehole
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 5, 2024 9:56:49 GMT
I don't watch the interviews or punditry really, and the days of sky sports news being on all day are long gone. No idea who he is but definitely sounds like an arsehole I've also cut my exposure to the likes of SSN and TalkSport to almost zero. Can't say I've heard his name before. If he has form for being rude fair enough, he's probably just being rude. I'm just wary of short twitter clips that omit what happened beforehand and encourage a pile on.
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Post by mikew1985 on Nov 5, 2024 9:57:16 GMT
Ah you know him, he's the slightly weird looking fella with the gray hair and tooth gap
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 5, 2024 10:01:43 GMT
Fucking hell, respect to Amorim for remaining so polite! As he texts his agent under the desk to see if its not too late to stay in Lisbon I believe the cunt is already banned from Old Trafford. After encounters with ETH. (Cotterill, not Amorim)
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Post by Syrette on Nov 5, 2024 10:03:27 GMT
If you've watched SSN for 5 minutes any time in the last decade you'll have seen/heard him.
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Post by baihu1983 on Nov 5, 2024 15:26:56 GMT
I don't watch the interviews or punditry really, and the days of sky sports news being on all day are long gone. No idea who he is but definitely sounds like an arsehole I've also cut my exposure to the likes of SSN and TalkSport to almost zero. Can't say I've heard his name before. If he has form for being rude fair enough, he's probably just being rude. I'm just wary of short twitter clips that omit what happened beforehand and encourage a pile on. Always come off as an arrogant twat who loves to ask questions he knows will piss off whoever he's talking to. Well known for asking dumb questions at press conferences while acting like it's what the nation wants to know!!
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